yer essay made me think of the Dax Shepard/Van Ness fiasco here in America that blew up last week. basically, Dax and his co-host were interviewing Van Ness on their podcast when the topic of transitioning kids was brought up. when Dax lightly scratched the surface in questioning the wisdom of mutilating children, Van Ness broke into literal tears saying how "exhausted" he is by advocating for "trans kids to just be included". at which point both Dax and host fell over themselves with apoligies and the "NICE" kicked in. they quickly dried the tears and set to change the subject, no doubt sending his publicts and manager a massive panic attack.
all it took was a bearded ladyman breaking down in tears to derail the uncomfortable questions.
run to mommy when someone makes you fell all cognitive-dissonancy and she will hurt the bad man...
Yes exactly. I read that story and immediately thought how obviously manipulative and narcissistic that behavior was, having a 'break down' until the host apologized for just asking the most middle of the road questions about it.
this quote: Shepard apologized, but the conversation already left its mark on Van Ness, who cried “because I’m so tired of having to fight for little kids because they just want to be included,” he explained. “I wish that people were as passionate about little kids being able to be included or grow up as they were about fictitious women’s fairness in sports. I have to tell you I am very tired.”
wow. that is the nexus of pathological narcissism. so permanently mutilating a child is "passionate about little kids being included" and being beaten by a man is a "fictitious issue" my God!
I told my husband years ago, when Kaitlin Jenner was voted "Woman of the Year," when Bill "Rachel" Levine was touted as the first "woman" to achieve given rank (despite all but the last promotion being given to Bill), and William "Lia" Thomas was touted as a women's swimming champion (despite breaking all the rules of PED use in women's swimming just being present), this is the beginning of the erasure of women. I told him, this tells me, it's okay to be a woman - as long as you were a man first. He poopoohed me at the time. Now that Bud Light has celebrated the creature Dylan Mulvaney, whose caricature of "girlhood" is both inaccurate and insulting, and he has been hired by both Nike (to promote their sports bras, despite having no breasts), and Tampa (to promote tampons, despite never having possessed a vagina), he has been forced to agree with me. Unless we resist the erasure of women in favor of men in drag, we will see a new Taliban, this time based upon equity and inclusivity, and therefor much more insidious and dangerous.
Indeed. Now it’s apparent that they are wholly promoting the “men make the best women” trope. Especially when they present as insipid nincompoops like Mulvaney.
The prancing Audrey Hepburn/Pee Wee Herman hybrid caricature that Mulvaney portrays seems to be a gay man's fantasy of what women are like, or what he'd like them to be like. It bears no resemblance to any real women I've ever known or observed.
they are so used to being coddled and surrounded by industry Yes men that they have never been challenged. imagine thinking that because the NYT published an article lightly questioning the wisdom of untested puberty blockers, that it means the Times is no longer a left leaning paper.
I notice Benjamin Boyce rides the line between this kind of nice and trying to be a professional & civil interviewer -- manifested in the unctuous way he tiptoes around a minefield of eggshells during some of his "Calmversations". It's the Leftist in him, I suspect.
Hi Jenny, I don't write myself but I follow a few people like yourself on substack, ie people who write about the madness of this gender ideology. I want you to know that your writing makes a difference; it helps those of us who read it stiffen our resolve to not just give in and go along with it all for a quiet life. Thank you.
"Lucy" might even be the father of children, deceiving his wife, telling "safe friends" about his secrets, but the pornography, drugs or alcohol and occasionally prostitution these dudes are indulging in are conveniently omitted from this victimology blackmail. What if professionals said, well, this is a difficult psychiatric illness, but with quality psychotherapy and mind/body movement, these obsessions might diminish in 5 years and then, you will have your intact body. The dirty little secrets are how often these husbands are sexually or physically attacking their wives. It is simply dangerous to stay, based on my data from 53 trans widows.
It seems as if pointing out the problem makes it too real to deal with, which ends up being the true transgression. As the old saying goes, the truth hurts, and that is no longer acceptable to the fascists masquerading as "liberals."
If we were not born yesterday, we have likely watched some chronic liar and manipulator play nice with some higher up in an organization and sound very convincing while her coworkers roll their eyes because they know her while the boss knows only her facade. Nice is often real, but it can be and often is fake and should not be considered determinative.
I have no patience for people who make emotional (nice) decisions versus logical. I worked in hospitals, where all decisions are logical. The nuns (back in the day) used to say 'No money, no mission' as a way of saying, every decision boils down to it's monetary foundation, even though they could seem incredible cold.
No bail, trans, legal shoplifting, all of the responses to felons who died while resisting arrest, homelessness and many other progressive positions have no grounding in logic, and are therefore doomed to ultimately fail.
Thank you, Jenny, for your continued good, good work. Greatly appreciated!
I had two trans friends, back in graduate school, and I thought they were both two of the coolest people I'd ever met. I appreciated the struggles they had been through, in order to "become who they truly are," and I very much supported them, as a friend, in any way that I could. But, back then, there was no push to "educate" young children about gender; there was no one forcing children to "choose" if they were a boy or a girl, or maybe a mixture of both. In fact, even among adults back then, there was no talk about gender.
As a person who used to believe that I was a big, big supporter of trans individuals (who, at that time were all adults), it surprises me how, once children became involved in the "gender ideology educational system," I felt like a line had been crossed and now, sadly, I no longer feel that I am a supporter of "trans rights." It really breaks my heart confessing that because I remember how much I loved and respected my trans friends of long ago. I lost touch with them, and maybe they're still the same cool individuals they used to be. Maybe they're not pushing for children to be "educated" in the ways of gender ideology, and, if so, I applaud them for still being cool. But, I would also tell them that they need to go public in their support of a parent's right to choose what kind of "sex/gender education" is best for that parent's child.
I, for one, don't want young children to even be thinking about sexual/gender issues. This is because I can remember how grossed out I was, in fifth grade, when we girls were separated from the boys one day at school so that we could watch a film about "getting our periods." As soon as I got home from school, my mom gave me a set of Life Cycle books, and when I first read about how a man goes about impregnating a woman, I wanted to vomit. I went rushing into the kitchen where my mom was fixing dinner and I said, "Daddy stuck his penis into you four times?" (There were four kids in my family.) My mother's response: "Well, um, we did it a bit more than four times." ha!ha!ha! Seriously, though, at the age of 10, I wanted to die when I thought about what was in store for me after I grew up (and if someone had asked me then if I wanted to grow up, the answer would have been a resounding NO). But, of course, puberty hit and suddenly I found myself fantasizing about Tommy, the incredibly cute boy who lived next door,... and, well, suddenly the thought of sex didn't seem so gross anymore.
Which is why I believe that, until you've gone through puberty, you can't really understand what sex is all about.
Yes, children need to be educated about sex, before they actually go through puberty. But--good gravy--let a kid be a kid, fantasizing about what young children, without adult intervention, usually fantasize about. For me, as a young child, it was mainly flying. I was so jealous of the birds because they got to fly and I couldn't. That was the main reason I enjoyed swinging on our backyard swing set so much, because then I could at least pretend I was flying. But, I can also remember that it was such a BOTHER having to take the time to run inside from the backyard to pee or to poop. Would a medical doctor today tell such a child, "Oh, we can fix it so that you never have to pee or poop into a toilet ever again"? To be honest, I might have agreed, at the age of six, seven, or even eight, to having a catheter bag or a colostomy bag installed, just so I could continue to play outside without any interruptions. But, of course, having a catheter bag or colostomy bag installed would have been very, very harmful to my young, healthy body. In the same way, I very much believe that puberty blockers, sex-change hormones, and sex-change surgeries are just as harmful to a healthy young body. If you're going to cause that much trauma to a healthy body, allow yourself, at the very least, to become an adult so that you can think, as an adult, about the long-term consequences of such actions.
You're right. When I was a kid, before puberty, I knew nothing at all about sexuality and didn't think about it. At that time in my life, I had absolutely no reason to know about such things. I learned about them later, from various informal sources, and definitely not from public school teachers. Everything worked out just fine.
This post on Nice has spoken to me. I have the same passionate and patience-free reactions you describe. Finally, someone who gets a short, quick, no-b*llsh*t response to idiocy. For me it's both in our social fabric and our economic one for no society is socially free if they are not economically free. I have beloved family members who are ALL in on the nice/victim/acceptance of insanity garbage and I can't get through. It makes me sad. No amount of reasoning will work because it's not reason they operate under - it's all emotion.
“…I believe that truth is real, and it is objective, and no matter how determined and tricksy the liars are, it will win out in the end.”
That perspective is the exact one I had to take to survive through some very real suffering. There is nothing more true to my mind. Good wins, every time, no matter how long it takes, no matter how many people abandon you, no matter how much your heart is broken. Truth always prevails in the end and, if you will dare to side with it, the friends you will make will inspire & uplift you and the hurt will stop and you will wonder how you kept going for so long under those lies. Good will always prevail in the end!
Back in the early 1990s when I was at school, this "niceness" was demonstrated by being vegetarian or caring about animals. I was always struck by the superficiality of this "niceness" when I realised that these very same people could be just as bitchy as anyone else (about people of course, not animals).
In recent years, as an erstwhile classical liberal (like my grandfather before me who would have seen this for what it is at first blush), I have grown more and more disheartened and repulsed by the blind obedience of virtue signallers and the miasma of Marxist sulphur in the air; the leftmost of the left, on the other hand, have welcomed it gleefully. I am furious, to be quite frank. Let's face it: The mainstream left has gone full communist. Bleeding hearts are more likely to spill blood for "the greater good" these days than give you a helping hand. History has shown, on multiple occasions, that these mass psychotic left-wing regimes invariably culminate in a prodigious body count and a trail of destruction in its wake. It is a nihilistic cult playing a zero-sum game. This is where we are now. Socialists, more often than not, have antisocial personality disorder. Liberals are unabashedly illiberal. They don't even bother to hide it anymore. As Josh Slocum has pointed out, we are subject to the whims/fetishes/kinks/proclivities/delusions of mentally-disturbed Cluster B maniacs. The state has been systematically whittling down our inalienable rights for decades. Incremental encroachment and outright overreach continues apace unchecked. We are all living in an Orwellian nightmare. "New normal" is an anti-human and satanic weltanschauung which must be opposed at all costs. People need hope. We need to illumine the way out of this Age of Endarkenment.
This crap never happened when the stakes were higher...e.g. during ww2, ww1, the depression, or even 1066. Now, our population is so soft, that they conjure up these idiotic ideas, and we tolerate this crap.
Its a sad state of affairs. It won't end unless there is a true calamity on our doorstep, but my fear is, by then, it may be too late.
Nero fiddles as rome burns. It's so obvious that this is happening right now.
yer essay made me think of the Dax Shepard/Van Ness fiasco here in America that blew up last week. basically, Dax and his co-host were interviewing Van Ness on their podcast when the topic of transitioning kids was brought up. when Dax lightly scratched the surface in questioning the wisdom of mutilating children, Van Ness broke into literal tears saying how "exhausted" he is by advocating for "trans kids to just be included". at which point both Dax and host fell over themselves with apoligies and the "NICE" kicked in. they quickly dried the tears and set to change the subject, no doubt sending his publicts and manager a massive panic attack.
all it took was a bearded ladyman breaking down in tears to derail the uncomfortable questions.
run to mommy when someone makes you fell all cognitive-dissonancy and she will hurt the bad man...
Yup. That's it!
(PS this comment is hilarious, in a very grim way. Which is my favourite kind of hilarious.)
(PPS who the fuck is Van Ness?)
omg, just google Van Ness Dax Shepard, yer in for a laugh...
😳
He was apparently on the queer eye Netflix show. Just seeing one pic of him will set off red flags
Yes exactly. I read that story and immediately thought how obviously manipulative and narcissistic that behavior was, having a 'break down' until the host apologized for just asking the most middle of the road questions about it.
this quote: Shepard apologized, but the conversation already left its mark on Van Ness, who cried “because I’m so tired of having to fight for little kids because they just want to be included,” he explained. “I wish that people were as passionate about little kids being able to be included or grow up as they were about fictitious women’s fairness in sports. I have to tell you I am very tired.”
wow. that is the nexus of pathological narcissism. so permanently mutilating a child is "passionate about little kids being included" and being beaten by a man is a "fictitious issue" my God!
I told my husband years ago, when Kaitlin Jenner was voted "Woman of the Year," when Bill "Rachel" Levine was touted as the first "woman" to achieve given rank (despite all but the last promotion being given to Bill), and William "Lia" Thomas was touted as a women's swimming champion (despite breaking all the rules of PED use in women's swimming just being present), this is the beginning of the erasure of women. I told him, this tells me, it's okay to be a woman - as long as you were a man first. He poopoohed me at the time. Now that Bud Light has celebrated the creature Dylan Mulvaney, whose caricature of "girlhood" is both inaccurate and insulting, and he has been hired by both Nike (to promote their sports bras, despite having no breasts), and Tampa (to promote tampons, despite never having possessed a vagina), he has been forced to agree with me. Unless we resist the erasure of women in favor of men in drag, we will see a new Taliban, this time based upon equity and inclusivity, and therefor much more insidious and dangerous.
Indeed. Now it’s apparent that they are wholly promoting the “men make the best women” trope. Especially when they present as insipid nincompoops like Mulvaney.
The prancing Audrey Hepburn/Pee Wee Herman hybrid caricature that Mulvaney portrays seems to be a gay man's fantasy of what women are like, or what he'd like them to be like. It bears no resemblance to any real women I've ever known or observed.
Yes, true. And it is really quite insulting. It is womanface, as opposed to blackface, and should be treated as such.
Yes, exactly. It's an insulting womanface act, and we're supposed to take it seriously. Never.
💯💯💯💯💯💯
The minds of people like Van Ness are inscrutable to rational people. They inhabit some kind of psychological fantasy land.
they are so used to being coddled and surrounded by industry Yes men that they have never been challenged. imagine thinking that because the NYT published an article lightly questioning the wisdom of untested puberty blockers, that it means the Times is no longer a left leaning paper.
now THAT, is living in a bubble...
Dax barf
I notice Benjamin Boyce rides the line between this kind of nice and trying to be a professional & civil interviewer -- manifested in the unctuous way he tiptoes around a minefield of eggshells during some of his "Calmversations". It's the Leftist in him, I suspect.
Yes, yes, yes, these “do gooders” are not doing anything good, instead they are perpetuating the ever growing madness we see all around us.
Exactly.
Hi Jenny, I don't write myself but I follow a few people like yourself on substack, ie people who write about the madness of this gender ideology. I want you to know that your writing makes a difference; it helps those of us who read it stiffen our resolve to not just give in and go along with it all for a quiet life. Thank you.
"Lucy" might even be the father of children, deceiving his wife, telling "safe friends" about his secrets, but the pornography, drugs or alcohol and occasionally prostitution these dudes are indulging in are conveniently omitted from this victimology blackmail. What if professionals said, well, this is a difficult psychiatric illness, but with quality psychotherapy and mind/body movement, these obsessions might diminish in 5 years and then, you will have your intact body. The dirty little secrets are how often these husbands are sexually or physically attacking their wives. It is simply dangerous to stay, based on my data from 53 trans widows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdIvcAA5HP8&t=9s
Yes, and when those inconvenient facts are pointed out, the person pointing them out is treated like the problem.
It seems as if pointing out the problem makes it too real to deal with, which ends up being the true transgression. As the old saying goes, the truth hurts, and that is no longer acceptable to the fascists masquerading as "liberals."
Some people are saying trans is just fine, you do you, if you are over the age of 18. Just stay away from my kids!
Failing to understand that the sin and evil of the LGBTQPIA CULT never stays in its own lane and its toxicity needs to spread itself around.
Just because the participants are over the age of 18 doesn't make this lifestyle suddenly benign and healthy, as your video clearly shows
We have become a society of adult-children incapable of holding reality in our hand without an emotional breakdown. It is unfortunate.
I liked your article. We are drowning in nice, we need more people to stand up and say some hard truths
If we were not born yesterday, we have likely watched some chronic liar and manipulator play nice with some higher up in an organization and sound very convincing while her coworkers roll their eyes because they know her while the boss knows only her facade. Nice is often real, but it can be and often is fake and should not be considered determinative.
I have no patience for people who make emotional (nice) decisions versus logical. I worked in hospitals, where all decisions are logical. The nuns (back in the day) used to say 'No money, no mission' as a way of saying, every decision boils down to it's monetary foundation, even though they could seem incredible cold.
No bail, trans, legal shoplifting, all of the responses to felons who died while resisting arrest, homelessness and many other progressive positions have no grounding in logic, and are therefore doomed to ultimately fail.
Thank you, Jenny, for your continued good, good work. Greatly appreciated!
I had two trans friends, back in graduate school, and I thought they were both two of the coolest people I'd ever met. I appreciated the struggles they had been through, in order to "become who they truly are," and I very much supported them, as a friend, in any way that I could. But, back then, there was no push to "educate" young children about gender; there was no one forcing children to "choose" if they were a boy or a girl, or maybe a mixture of both. In fact, even among adults back then, there was no talk about gender.
As a person who used to believe that I was a big, big supporter of trans individuals (who, at that time were all adults), it surprises me how, once children became involved in the "gender ideology educational system," I felt like a line had been crossed and now, sadly, I no longer feel that I am a supporter of "trans rights." It really breaks my heart confessing that because I remember how much I loved and respected my trans friends of long ago. I lost touch with them, and maybe they're still the same cool individuals they used to be. Maybe they're not pushing for children to be "educated" in the ways of gender ideology, and, if so, I applaud them for still being cool. But, I would also tell them that they need to go public in their support of a parent's right to choose what kind of "sex/gender education" is best for that parent's child.
I, for one, don't want young children to even be thinking about sexual/gender issues. This is because I can remember how grossed out I was, in fifth grade, when we girls were separated from the boys one day at school so that we could watch a film about "getting our periods." As soon as I got home from school, my mom gave me a set of Life Cycle books, and when I first read about how a man goes about impregnating a woman, I wanted to vomit. I went rushing into the kitchen where my mom was fixing dinner and I said, "Daddy stuck his penis into you four times?" (There were four kids in my family.) My mother's response: "Well, um, we did it a bit more than four times." ha!ha!ha! Seriously, though, at the age of 10, I wanted to die when I thought about what was in store for me after I grew up (and if someone had asked me then if I wanted to grow up, the answer would have been a resounding NO). But, of course, puberty hit and suddenly I found myself fantasizing about Tommy, the incredibly cute boy who lived next door,... and, well, suddenly the thought of sex didn't seem so gross anymore.
Which is why I believe that, until you've gone through puberty, you can't really understand what sex is all about.
Yes, children need to be educated about sex, before they actually go through puberty. But--good gravy--let a kid be a kid, fantasizing about what young children, without adult intervention, usually fantasize about. For me, as a young child, it was mainly flying. I was so jealous of the birds because they got to fly and I couldn't. That was the main reason I enjoyed swinging on our backyard swing set so much, because then I could at least pretend I was flying. But, I can also remember that it was such a BOTHER having to take the time to run inside from the backyard to pee or to poop. Would a medical doctor today tell such a child, "Oh, we can fix it so that you never have to pee or poop into a toilet ever again"? To be honest, I might have agreed, at the age of six, seven, or even eight, to having a catheter bag or a colostomy bag installed, just so I could continue to play outside without any interruptions. But, of course, having a catheter bag or colostomy bag installed would have been very, very harmful to my young, healthy body. In the same way, I very much believe that puberty blockers, sex-change hormones, and sex-change surgeries are just as harmful to a healthy young body. If you're going to cause that much trauma to a healthy body, allow yourself, at the very least, to become an adult so that you can think, as an adult, about the long-term consequences of such actions.
This morning, at Frontline News, I found this letter from a mom who's certainly tired of "being nice." I stand in solidarity with her. Here's the link: https://frontline.news/post/i-don-t-hate-you-but-leave-my-kids-alone
You're right. When I was a kid, before puberty, I knew nothing at all about sexuality and didn't think about it. At that time in my life, I had absolutely no reason to know about such things. I learned about them later, from various informal sources, and definitely not from public school teachers. Everything worked out just fine.
Exactly my experience. Worked out just fine. Probably much the same throughout American history, indeed millennia of human history.
Great post! I’m so glad you shared again. I was needing some reality.
Thank you!!
This post on Nice has spoken to me. I have the same passionate and patience-free reactions you describe. Finally, someone who gets a short, quick, no-b*llsh*t response to idiocy. For me it's both in our social fabric and our economic one for no society is socially free if they are not economically free. I have beloved family members who are ALL in on the nice/victim/acceptance of insanity garbage and I can't get through. It makes me sad. No amount of reasoning will work because it's not reason they operate under - it's all emotion.
Greetings fellow traveller!!
“…I believe that truth is real, and it is objective, and no matter how determined and tricksy the liars are, it will win out in the end.”
That perspective is the exact one I had to take to survive through some very real suffering. There is nothing more true to my mind. Good wins, every time, no matter how long it takes, no matter how many people abandon you, no matter how much your heart is broken. Truth always prevails in the end and, if you will dare to side with it, the friends you will make will inspire & uplift you and the hurt will stop and you will wonder how you kept going for so long under those lies. Good will always prevail in the end!
Thank you for sharing that.
It'll all be ok in the end. If it's not ok, it's not the end.🙂
Back in the early 1990s when I was at school, this "niceness" was demonstrated by being vegetarian or caring about animals. I was always struck by the superficiality of this "niceness" when I realised that these very same people could be just as bitchy as anyone else (about people of course, not animals).
You had me at a Mommie Dearest still.
It's all Tina's fault we're in this mess, naturally. 😆
In recent years, as an erstwhile classical liberal (like my grandfather before me who would have seen this for what it is at first blush), I have grown more and more disheartened and repulsed by the blind obedience of virtue signallers and the miasma of Marxist sulphur in the air; the leftmost of the left, on the other hand, have welcomed it gleefully. I am furious, to be quite frank. Let's face it: The mainstream left has gone full communist. Bleeding hearts are more likely to spill blood for "the greater good" these days than give you a helping hand. History has shown, on multiple occasions, that these mass psychotic left-wing regimes invariably culminate in a prodigious body count and a trail of destruction in its wake. It is a nihilistic cult playing a zero-sum game. This is where we are now. Socialists, more often than not, have antisocial personality disorder. Liberals are unabashedly illiberal. They don't even bother to hide it anymore. As Josh Slocum has pointed out, we are subject to the whims/fetishes/kinks/proclivities/delusions of mentally-disturbed Cluster B maniacs. The state has been systematically whittling down our inalienable rights for decades. Incremental encroachment and outright overreach continues apace unchecked. We are all living in an Orwellian nightmare. "New normal" is an anti-human and satanic weltanschauung which must be opposed at all costs. People need hope. We need to illumine the way out of this Age of Endarkenment.
Yep.
In my experience those 'nice' people can be pretty unpleasant when they're challenged on the positions they take
This crap never happened when the stakes were higher...e.g. during ww2, ww1, the depression, or even 1066. Now, our population is so soft, that they conjure up these idiotic ideas, and we tolerate this crap.
Its a sad state of affairs. It won't end unless there is a true calamity on our doorstep, but my fear is, by then, it may be too late.
Nero fiddles as rome burns. It's so obvious that this is happening right now.