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Peterson's real sin is believing that immutable differences between the sexes exist, have real world impact, and must be considered when making life decisions. He's censured for this because, if he's right, it throws the entire Girlboss-Industrial Complex into question.

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The Girlboss-Industrial Complex is being overthrown by the same Leftists that produced Feminism -- their latest Industrial Complex is Men with Penises defined as "Women"

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I would love to steal "Girlboss-Industrial Complex" - hope you don't object? 🤣

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Go for it!

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Your essays are consistently terrific but this one was particularly splendid. Insightful and sharp and wryly amused. Well done!

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Thank you!!

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I had a moment last week when my daughter (aged 19) sent me a question out the blue: are you a fan of Jordan Peterson? I was like, 'what?'. But she's moving into a new flat with a group of friends later this month, one of whom is a they/them. I've been 'corrected' a couple of times, but haven't approached it properly yet; I'm waiting till my daughter is in the same room as me for that. Turns out that her future flatmates had gone onto my YouTube channel and seen that one of my videos was about the conversation between Bari Weiss and JBP, and that gave rise to the question. It's tricky ground for me. I'm not sure how indoctrinated our daughter is, but I'm hopeful that we've raised her well enough to be tolerant of other people's views. Her flatmates are all coming to stay in August, so that will be interesting. I'm honestly looking forward to meeting them, but this issue is like a hum in the background, and it really shouldn't be. Why am I afraid? It's mental.

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I get it. I don’t even approach the subject of politics or culture with my son. It would be a nightmare.

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Same, until now, because I'm pretty much going to have to. I have been reflecting on what I might say and how I might say it. But, if experience has taught me anything, the real situation very rarely goes as I imagine it will.

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I hear you, which is why (before visits with my grown children), I always surrender, in prayer, the entire visit to God and ask that God's Will of Love be manifest during my interactions with my kids. Throughout the visit, I continue silently surrendering my mind to God, and when one of my kids asks me a question, before responding I silently ask God for help in knowing the most loving way to respond. I've never experienced so much prayerful surrender to God in my life as I do now during visits with my own children (at times I feel like I'm doing more prayer than a cloistered nun). So far, all of my prayerful surrender to God has led to some amazingly peaceful visits with my children. When I keep my mind in a state of prayer, words that would normally make me very angry seem to bead off of me like water on a duck. And, no, I don't just keep my mouth shut during these visits. I respond when they ask me questions, or whenever my kids say things that I feel I must response to (so that they know I'm not on the same page as they are); but I think my surrender to God (ahead of time) helps my words to be nothing more than self-expression rather than something that could be viewed as a verbal attack (on my own, without God's help, I'm a natural hot head who loves to argue and to "prove" that the other individual is "wrong" and that I am "right"). Personally, though, I think that God has a great sense of humor because I have found that sometimes I am even able to make my children laugh during our visits (and I'm not a naturally funny person). I do a heck of a lot of praying during visits with my kids, but, for me, it's been worth it. : )

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This is a beautiful approach Shelley, and it's very similar to how I'm thinking about it. My Morning Pages ritual (published on my Substack) is a wonderful way of keeping myself grounded and reminded that I'm not in charge. And your words also reminded me of a favourite song of mine by Depeche Mode, Blasphemous Rumours, although its lyrics have a slightly different slant on God's sense of humour:

I don't want to start

Any blasphemous rumors

But I think that God's

Got a sick sense of humor

And when I die

I expect to find Him laughing

I'm relistening to it now and it's utterly chilling.

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Thank you so much for this guidance...I will try to follow your example in my own life

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Hopefully you will pass the test with your daughter's Soviet Commissars :)

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I had a moment like this with my 16 year old daughter over the whole Bud Light advertisement controversy. It got heated and she got upset (I didn't know, until then, that she had been following Dylan Mulvaney, so obviously felt more sympathy ) My husband and I tried to explain that we fully supported gay and trans rights etc but that we felt a biological woman should have been chosen for this campaign. These issues will inevitably come up, and they can be explosive! I always remind my kids that we are different generations and bound to see the world differently at times (I remember secretly judging my parents for reading 'The Sun' when I was a teen!)

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The Sun? You're lucky. Mine read the Daily Star!

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Oh, yes, I vaguely remember that one. I just googled it and recognised it immediately. I think later my folks moved on to The Daily Mirror. But there was also the Daily Express/Sunday Express etc...around. Later, as a young adult, I only bought the Guardian and/or Observer. I wouldn't touch those with a bargepole now!

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So you taught her to be tolerant of stupidity? Stunning and brave, my oh my. She got it from you? What are your values? Malleable? How bendable? You will find out

Be open to what happens, but be willing to take a firm stand with egregious idiocy if it rears its ugly head

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We most certainly did not teach her to be tolerant of stupidity. And taking a firm stand at the cost of my relationship with my daughter is thorny at best. I must tread carefully.

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Fair enough. I go through this with my eldest son. Just don’t agree to what you don’t believe, because I assure you, she’ll sniff out hypocrisy in a nanosecond.

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Getting along with woke people is like walking on an eggshell carpet without making any noise.

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"I'm not sure how indoctrinated our daughter is, but I'm hopeful that we've raised her well enough to be tolerant of other people's views."

You should absolutely not be tolerant of the child castration cult.

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I've listened to a lot of Peterson and the only thing I've heard him say in relation to sexual dynamics between men and women is that if a guy wants to have a decent woman in his life he needs to fucking get his shit together. Do better, work harder, take responsibility for his life and become the type of male that women are attracted to.

To claim that Jordan preaches a message of "men just innately deserve sex from women" isn't a distortion of the facts, it's a full on lie. Literally just making something up out of thin air.

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Yep. I would guess, though, that Olivia Wilde is just parroting the approved line on Peterson, and not knowingly perpetuating the lie. I doubt she's seen those videos of him saying the *exact* opposite of what she claims he says. Which, to me, makes her more pathetic than malevolent. It's totally cringe, as the kids say, she just seems like someone so desperate to seem right on, worthy, righteous. Obviously, that's conjecture on my part. It's very possible that she knows exactly how dishonest she's being.

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I can understand that people might disagree with Peterson, possibly even with good reason. What I don't get at all is the fathomless hatred he inspires in the woke scum.

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I do get it. He is standing against the prevailing spirit of the age and inspires the fury of “demons.”

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Great point. I sometimes disagree with Peterson but still like to listen to what he says.

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I sometimes find Peterson makes sense, but he STILL is annoying to listen to. His smugness and condescension are always irritants for me.

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I agree, but still he says much that is worthwhile, and I can't stand it when someone is accused of saying or doing something stupid, and it's a pack of lies.

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Also his OCD need to parse minutiae.

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Peterson is incredibly easy to parody, because of his accent and mannerisms, and also because he was so ubiquitous. Then recently he seemed to get highly emotional and stressed, which made him even easier to parody. There are a few comedians whose parodies of him I really enjoy, because they are not in bad faith. The same goes for Tucker, actually. A comedian called Kyle Dunnigan does hilarious parodies of both.

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Annoyance and irritation aren't fathomless hatred though.

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"It just never occurs to these people that we, the normies and the plebs who are drifting “rightward,” might be operating at full brain capacity. It never crosses their minds that we are choosing to listen to people like Peterson (and Tucker, and Bannon, and Roseanne, etc etc) because we have evaluated and analysed what they say and found it to be true, or at least close to true, in a world full of the most obvious and sinister lies. But no, the libs must continue to self-soothe by whispering to themselves, “it’s the algorithm, not our own blatant dishonesty.” "

You express things so well, this is just what I want to say to so many people close to me. They whisper to themselves and roll their eyes but never engage in a lengthy evidence based discussion.

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Thank you! And feel free to say just that to those people - if you have the energy to engage with them on this.

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What you describe (the mindset of these "liberals") is in fact, indicia of someone with narcissistic personality disorder.

The best way to describe it is : "they live in a house with no windows or doors, only mirrors"

Essentially, they live in a delusion, a world created by their own mind. Every OTHER being out there is not really a separate being to them. They are actually interacting with the interject of other beings that that they have essentially taken a "snapshot" and exists in their own mind. Hence when they say Jordan Peterson stands for XYZ (when here really believes the opposite of XYZ), what they have done is taken the "image" of JP, interjected that image into their own mind, and thereafter interact with "what their mind" imagines JP to be (which is, in reality, a falsity).

They are delusional people, and are ill, from a psychiatric standpoint.

The movie is really telling, because what is described is actually the narcissists' imagined reality. The difference being, the political aspect of it i.e. the husband drugged the wife so she could live in the delusional metaverse of the 1950's, -- the reality is, the narcissist actually lives in that delusional world without being drugged (and that world is a figment of their imagination).

It's actually sad. But once you realize what the personality disorder's symptoms are, it all becomes crystal clear.

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What do you think is the driver of all these personality-disordered people? I know people say it's caused by childhood trauma but it's so prevalent now, I wonder why.

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these lunatics have ALWAYS been here, social media has merely shown how endemic their mindset really is. Before social media, you had no data points to work with i.e. you would not know how other people "thought" unless you spoke to them in person.

The "pandemic" was both a blessing and a curse, as it drove many more people into the social media realm, exposing how deranged a large part of our populace actually is.

It also enabled these lunatics to drive around...in their car...alone...with a mask on their

face, without suffering much social ridicule.

How many times did you see that? I saw it more often than I care to repeat. I still see it today.

You see, the narcissist is always wearing a "mask" i.e. the false mask of their manufactured self image that they portray to the outside world. Wearing a actual mask while driving a car, alone, or while walking down the street, or while sitting outside in a park, comes natural to these people, hence they do it...alerting everyone else that they are probably suffering from one of the cluster b personality disorders.

Social media self portrayals of these people (tik tok posts, fakebook posts, instasham) is actually an overt manifestation of their "narcissistic mask". The self portrayal is generally a false assertion.

Childhood "trauma" or at least "imagined trauma" is believed to be A CAUSE, but not the sole cause. Some clinicians feel that personality agreeableness vs. fussiness as a child is more of an accurate predictor (fussiness/inability to self soothe/inability to entertain oneself etc). What causes that differential is unknown (to the best of my knowledge).

Throw in the fact that in the modern era, lets say the last 40-50 years, there is more of a financial need to have both parents out of the home working, leaving early childcare to third parties. This, i suspect has contributed, but to what degree, I cannot say.

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It's a pity I can only give you one like because you gave a perfect description of their delusional idiocy! As for myself, I don't want to waste any time or money on any cocatrice's egg hatched by Olivia Wilde.

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wait 'till it is on netflix.

if you study "liberal" media like this movie (there are many others e.g. handmaids tale) , you will peer into the inner workings of their psychosis, and EVERYTHING will become crystal clear.

One thing that i have learned over the last 3 years, is, there are A LOT of crazy people out there, more than i previously thought. I'm talking like 20-25% of the population may be on the narcissism spectrum, and are living in their own delusional world. It is really SCARY.

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I think a smaller percentage in over 35-40 people but higher in 18-35 people. It’s social media, driving their insatiable need for likes and attention. They’re the most ridiculous generation of many decades.

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Social media enables, and, exposes them. Some might even say, social media "monitors" them, and influences their actions . Hence the government has decided to get involved by influencing censorship, to serve their ends .

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Oh, the irony of her being so obsessed with stamping out stereotypes that she corrects her 3-yr-old daughter when, by clearing the plate, she's probably just trying to do something nice for a big brother she loves. Another "stereotypical behavior" would be males coming to the aid of a women being physically threatened, as happened earlier this year when an uber driver and his passenger stopped and went after a man trying to drag a woman off the street. Too bad Wilde wasn't there to tell them to stop. Can't we just be free to be you and me, or are we now supposed to conform to non-stereotypes according to Wilde? And why do so many celebrities want to share their sex lives? I would love the hear Jordan Peterson's take on that one. The movie does sound interesting and it reminds me of the (1972) Stepford Wives.

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It's a remake of Stepford Wives, basically.

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"Wilde is the apex of the rich, white, female, guilt-ridden, prestige-industry striver. Craven and desperate for approval, while simultaneously claiming to be empowered, while also claiming to be a victim: the holy trinity of the upper middle class white professional female."

That's what we call hitting the nail (or better yet, spike) on the head with a sledgehammer.

Brilliant.

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Thank you!

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Wilde and her useful idiot-girl followers are pathetic. They may be "educated" but they aren't terribly bright.

A little delegated authority to some useful idiots speak on behalf of other useful idiots is a dangerous thing, a fool's errand.

But they, being cognitively challenged, just don't get it

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"I have been watching her with irritation since 2019, when upon the poor box office returns of her first movie, she wrote a tweet attempting to guilt-trip the American public into buying a ticket. "

2019 as we know was in times B.C. (Before Covid). I don't need to know anything else to know that when Covid hit, Wilde was wearing her mask religiously, calling for anti-vaxxers to be rounded up in camps, then soon thereafter genuflecting to Zelensky and now worshipping at the altar of Men with Penises Who Are Women.

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Really? I saw pics of her masked but I didn't know any of that other stuff. Not surprised, of course.

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I don't have evidence of those things -- I'm just making an educated guess, since Leftists tend to support the full package deal of Narratives and rarely show intelligent discrimination by supporting one Narrative, but opposing others. I.e., if you see someone with a Ukraine flag, you can reasonably infer they also support vaccines, the idea of systemic white racism, the transgender agenda, etc.

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“ I go to be visually pleasured. So beautiful actors, beautiful clothes, beautiful sets are enough to make me happy— provided I’m not subjected to a libtard lecture while I’m there. “ SAMMMMME!!!! 🙋🏻‍♀️👏🏻❤️

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Right!!?? No shame in it!

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Oh my goodness. There is really something to the whole breathless "Look! I know that incels are bad! People hate Jordan Peterson, right?!" vibe in Hollywood right now that is ruining good storytelling.

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Morons have changed their definition of INCELS from what it first meant.

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YUP. This mass redefinition of words needs to stop.

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This is why it becomes nearly impossible to have a rational conversation with morons given over to the reprobate mind. With the redefinition of words comes loss of critical thinking and cognitive ability to grasp ideas. Because of this, the WildeBeast is not anybody worth giving two minutes of your time to. If I went to see the rotten cockatrice egg she hatched, it would be like opening up Pandora's box and trying to repack it again.

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Great article, sharp, incisive ...

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Great take! I believe Olivia has broken up with Styles and is at least being seen out and about with her still? husband. Her criticism of Peterson was so wrong I’ve determined not to pay much attention to her.

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Jenny - as always, well done!

Am I the only one who reads/listens to these people and is instantly transported back to high school? The whole teenage (and earlier) trans angst thing seems like a high school clique run amok. The "How could I bring kids into a world that's going to implode due to climate change/incels/Deplorables ..." - ditto. The stylishly torn clothes (as opposed to our preppy look). The nasty insecurity of the "cool kids" tearing down those who don't care to conform to the CK's ever-changing "standards" of what's cool or not. I didn't much care for HS when I was in it; do I have to live through another era of popularity-seeking BS again?!?

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Lol, I know exactly what you mean. Unfortunately, they also have all the depth and wisdom of high schoolers too.

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"The second media storm came after she smugly announced that the movie’s villain, a creepy cult leader type played by Chris Pine, was inspired by Jordan Peterson. As Wilde explained in an interview with fellow actress Maggie Gyllenhaal, Pine’s role is based on Peterson,"

Chris Pine is poor casting for the role of Jordan Peterson (whether implied or advertised). For one thing, he's too young looking and too "hunky". I fancy myself an amateur Hollywood casting expert, and in this case I would recommend the following actors:

Jeremy Irons

Hugh Laurie

Christian Bale

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Hmmm...interesting choices. I also love casting films in my imagination! In a sane world, where people still made good content, I would imagine Hugh Laurie doing a good job, provided it was in good faith. Christian Bale is too young, and Jeremy Irons too old and dour. JBP isn't dour, he's more overwrought.

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Yeah part of my casting fantasies involve being free of minor difficulties like the actor being too old (or even dead!). I'd agree Laurie would be best, but if I were the director, I wouldn't mind if he snuck in just a wee bit of bad faith now and then :)

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