Quick note. I love how you addressed the reality that women have an enormous power that men don’t often articulate. And, often time, women who go against the narrative face a large penalty. Whether biologically influenced or not, women viciously attack women who deviate from groupbthink. I would not have guessed women would be more tribal than men but I suspect they, the group Conciousness in abstract, imagine they achieved their 20th century goals by leveraging tribalism. Just ask the billionaire women; recently labeled a witch by the left. I’m serious. An actress from the Harry potter movies used the bully pulpit at an award ceremonies to get Twitter jeers. She did so by saying in no uncertain terms that she was right about transgender ideology. And she implied that jk Rowling was not just wrong but a type of evil of evil women only a witch can best estimate.
And, so, I loved your piece. Regarding the l claim that the Catholic Church and their Catechism is less qualified on the topic of sex then a 21st century Marxist is not supported by reason. As you point out, the ideological contributors of transgender ideology are not scientists - instead they are idealouges. So much so they get something so fundamental wrong - that biological sex is fiction. On the other hand, the Catholic Church through priests Gregor Mendel and a Belgian who’s name slips my mind taught the world about genes and the Big Bang theory.
What I really wanted to talk about in this post in Victorian England. If ever a sexually repressive culture came to light, you ought to mention the net effects of sex during this era. It is by my measure the only era where sex was so taboo, only shock and awe would follow the very mention of it. How do you reconcil their sexual repression or minimizing of sex as harmful tk their culture? Victorian England may among the most successful eras for any nation state over the same number of years x
Thank you!! In some very key ways women have literally all power in the world. In others, of course, we are hugely vulnerable. The most important thing is balance -- I thought we had figured this all out, but all we seem to have done is let the demons in. And the liberal/left/progressives -- my people! -- just refuse to face that truth. They just try and blame others.
Hi Jenny. I'm not sure how to express what I'm wanting to write here, except to say that I'm feeling some mixture of gratitude and admiration for the thoughtful work that you put into developing this piece. That a person could truly comprehend this many facets of a complex subject, and then guide them to a thoughtful conclusion, while also daring to take a stand is truly remarkable. I won't do your article the trite disservice of saying "there's parts I disagree with," but instead just really wish I could converse more with you. I'm the father of a wonderful 9-year old boy who is well-liked in his class and I seriously doubt will end up pathetic and unfuckable. I dread - however - the influences that society will have on him as he grows into his own person. It's my absolute nightmare that I will somehow be unable to guide him away from becoming the type of bro-y douche-bag types that are clearly SOMEone's kids, whose parents probably did want them to turn out that way.
Anyhow, I just wanted to thank you so much putting your talents to such good use in your development of this article. I consider myself someone who has a strong moral center and a lot of people tell me that I'm a good father. I don't have all the answers, however, and reading your piece gave me the idea that I should probably print it out and save it for a few years until I need to really start talking with my son about sex, porn, lust, girls and dating. Your piece kind of gives me the courage to think that I could navigate those topics with him in such a way that wouldn't be tone-deaf or out of touch with the cultural morass in which he'll mature.
I love the fact that you don't resort to platitudes and you didn't approach the subject by assuming a moral high ground the same way that so many of our current thought influencers seem to do. I find them all the be hypocrites over and over, as well as being wistfully sentimental about some foregone age that never actually existed, as you've pointed out. They are all completely useless to a guy like me - just trying to give his son a set of truly critical thinking skills and be honest with him about how things are.
You are an amazing writer. I actually came across your piece on the embarrassment of liberal elites at Real Clear Politics, and I admit that I voted for Joe Biden and I don't generally consider myself a "conservative." But dear God - Pres. Biden can really just make no sense at all sometimes, and he embarrasses himself. It's painful. Back to my point - what I like about your article too, is that it's not based on political alignment. This is not an article that you read, trying to confirm your own opinion. This is an article that actually helps you shape your thoughts, and that is a very hard thing to do. Well-done, Jenny ... really really well-done. I think you're brilliant. (had to post my response in two parts, due to the word limit)
Thank you for these truly flattering comments. I would just like to say that I really appreciate you letting me know that my musings actually resonate -- i write every week and until recently it felt like I was shouting into a void. But re: your thoughts on your son and how to raise him, that really moved me. I think male tenderness is so hugely, hugely discounted in society right now. The dominant narrative is how dangerous men are. I mean, they definitely can be. But the vast majority are not. The other thing that we forget is that if something is bad for women, it will eventually be bad for men. And what's bad for men will eventually be bad for women. We are linked in ways so profound we cease to even see them anymore. Getting the male-female dynamic right is something humans have always struggled with, yet it is possibly the most important thing. But I get the strong sense that your son will grow up with the right guidance. Thanks again. 🥰
Absolutely Jenny. I can't wait to read more and recommend you to others. I'm digesting everything you're writing and I hope you manage a book or speaking engagements. You are not shouting into a void. People like me are begging for your kind of perspective.
Hey dude I also love rcp and found this writer the same way. I always wondered if rcp truly presented as something like an accumulator of the best right & left headlines. Because I am a right winger and thought sometimes rcp may come off as right wing favoring. Any thoughts on that claim?
Thanks for the thoughtful essay. As a not-particularly-handsome, shy teenage boy I was certain I'd never have a relationship with a girl or woman. Fortunately for me, it turned out I was mistaken. I had a few long-term girlfriends, and I've been married for decades now. But what about guys who are even less attractive than I thought I was? What are the "pathetic and unfuckable" supposed to do? Just accept their fate and do without their entire lives? Wow, that would be a hard row to hoe. Guys like that have been tragically cheated by fate, or genetics, or whatever. I can't imagine a life without a meaningful intimate relationship with a woman. I don't know what the solution is for them.
Thanks for this comment, it is very interesting and it really gets to the heart of the matter. I think we need to really train kids to have patience and competence -- in life generally. These emotional and practical skills will give them the inner tools they need for a fulfilling life. And we need to shield them in those extremely vulnerable teen years, when everyone is a hormonal basket case, from false idols that promise perfection or self-realisation through surgery or sexual activity or attention seeking behaviours. Imagine if when you were a boy you were shown videos that aimed to convince you it was easier to BECOME a woman than to grow into a man who could on his own merits win a woman over? We need to teach young men to be skilled (at something, anything), to contribute, to respect women -- and no matter what they look like physically they will never be "pathetic and unfuckable."
Yes, patience and competence in life are essential. It seems to me the problem incel types have connecting with women has more to do with emotional immaturity, a failure to develop competence and confidence in life generally, than it does with physical attractiveness. I'm glad the forces preying on vulnerable teen minds today, even in the form of their teachers and school psychologists, weren't around when I was that age. I think you're right--any young man who is competent at life and respects women will not end up a pathetic incel.
I sympathize with anyone who is coerced into being sexually abused, or who is involuntarily part of the "sex industry". But there are prostitutes who are in that profession voluntarily, hawking their wares on the sidewalk and on the internet. I can't begrudge men who are too unattractive to have a normal relationship being able to experience sex on some level with women who have chosen of their own free will to take money in exchange for it.
The uses of sexual repression are brilliantly exposed by Wilhelm Reich in three (poorly) translated from the German, books: The Mass Psychology of Fascism, The Sexual Revolution and The Invasion of Compulsory Sexual Morality. In a nutshell, it produces a populace that will be compliant, obedient and willing to act against its own best interests.
Reich was referring to things like the severe punishments for masturbation prescribed for children who indulged in it. I'm sure you can think of other ways normal healthy sexual interest/practice on the part, particularly of teenagers, is inhibited by society.
Sin has, of course, been around for a very long time, but today many have bought the lie that sin should be celebrated. This hurts everybody in a society, particularly the most vulnerable. Although some (including some in religious establishments) have confused sinning with a failure to adhere to man-made petty legalisms, that does not mean that real sin does not exist. But God allows U-turns.
If I were the sort of person who could get away with saying “damn girl!” I’d be saying it. We should all be getting this real about what is going on. Well done.
There’s a documentary coming out about what happened at the Playboy Mansion. It’s a good example of what the public and private sphere line was…. To the public these were “sophisticated” men who enjoyed beautiful women, privately they did lots of drugs, drugged women for sex, participated in orgies and occasionally made drugged out porn stars give head to german shepards…. My guess is most of them were psychopaths, who literally can’t engage in healthy sexuality. Ira Einhorn is a good example, plus he had a diary so anyone can get a view into the psychopathic mind. Be warned, it’s significantly darker than a Cardi B video.
The topic of the Whose Body Is It youtube channel, which I reference twice in the piece, is all significantly darker than Cardi B. It's mind boggling how damaged we have become with these extreme behaviours. The normalisation has to stop. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thank you for writing this and engaging on this incredibly difficult topic. I'm not even sure what to say in return, other than a) I appreciate it, a lot and b) you absolutely hit the nail on the head, especially re: disassociation. It was when I started seeing people talk about how kids are being trained in weird online communities to disassociate in order to then perform sex acts that I realised how dark this shit is -- that was such a profound shock. I think people like you who have lived the sharp end of the stick need to have much bigger platforms to counter these dangerously naive narratives that sheltered middle class girls are buying into. I would actually be interested in talking with you about this further, if you were willing.
Quick note. I love how you addressed the reality that women have an enormous power that men don’t often articulate. And, often time, women who go against the narrative face a large penalty. Whether biologically influenced or not, women viciously attack women who deviate from groupbthink. I would not have guessed women would be more tribal than men but I suspect they, the group Conciousness in abstract, imagine they achieved their 20th century goals by leveraging tribalism. Just ask the billionaire women; recently labeled a witch by the left. I’m serious. An actress from the Harry potter movies used the bully pulpit at an award ceremonies to get Twitter jeers. She did so by saying in no uncertain terms that she was right about transgender ideology. And she implied that jk Rowling was not just wrong but a type of evil of evil women only a witch can best estimate.
And, so, I loved your piece. Regarding the l claim that the Catholic Church and their Catechism is less qualified on the topic of sex then a 21st century Marxist is not supported by reason. As you point out, the ideological contributors of transgender ideology are not scientists - instead they are idealouges. So much so they get something so fundamental wrong - that biological sex is fiction. On the other hand, the Catholic Church through priests Gregor Mendel and a Belgian who’s name slips my mind taught the world about genes and the Big Bang theory.
What I really wanted to talk about in this post in Victorian England. If ever a sexually repressive culture came to light, you ought to mention the net effects of sex during this era. It is by my measure the only era where sex was so taboo, only shock and awe would follow the very mention of it. How do you reconcil their sexual repression or minimizing of sex as harmful tk their culture? Victorian England may among the most successful eras for any nation state over the same number of years x
Thank you!! In some very key ways women have literally all power in the world. In others, of course, we are hugely vulnerable. The most important thing is balance -- I thought we had figured this all out, but all we seem to have done is let the demons in. And the liberal/left/progressives -- my people! -- just refuse to face that truth. They just try and blame others.
Hi Jenny. I'm not sure how to express what I'm wanting to write here, except to say that I'm feeling some mixture of gratitude and admiration for the thoughtful work that you put into developing this piece. That a person could truly comprehend this many facets of a complex subject, and then guide them to a thoughtful conclusion, while also daring to take a stand is truly remarkable. I won't do your article the trite disservice of saying "there's parts I disagree with," but instead just really wish I could converse more with you. I'm the father of a wonderful 9-year old boy who is well-liked in his class and I seriously doubt will end up pathetic and unfuckable. I dread - however - the influences that society will have on him as he grows into his own person. It's my absolute nightmare that I will somehow be unable to guide him away from becoming the type of bro-y douche-bag types that are clearly SOMEone's kids, whose parents probably did want them to turn out that way.
Anyhow, I just wanted to thank you so much putting your talents to such good use in your development of this article. I consider myself someone who has a strong moral center and a lot of people tell me that I'm a good father. I don't have all the answers, however, and reading your piece gave me the idea that I should probably print it out and save it for a few years until I need to really start talking with my son about sex, porn, lust, girls and dating. Your piece kind of gives me the courage to think that I could navigate those topics with him in such a way that wouldn't be tone-deaf or out of touch with the cultural morass in which he'll mature.
I love the fact that you don't resort to platitudes and you didn't approach the subject by assuming a moral high ground the same way that so many of our current thought influencers seem to do. I find them all the be hypocrites over and over, as well as being wistfully sentimental about some foregone age that never actually existed, as you've pointed out. They are all completely useless to a guy like me - just trying to give his son a set of truly critical thinking skills and be honest with him about how things are.
You are an amazing writer. I actually came across your piece on the embarrassment of liberal elites at Real Clear Politics, and I admit that I voted for Joe Biden and I don't generally consider myself a "conservative." But dear God - Pres. Biden can really just make no sense at all sometimes, and he embarrasses himself. It's painful. Back to my point - what I like about your article too, is that it's not based on political alignment. This is not an article that you read, trying to confirm your own opinion. This is an article that actually helps you shape your thoughts, and that is a very hard thing to do. Well-done, Jenny ... really really well-done. I think you're brilliant. (had to post my response in two parts, due to the word limit)
Thank you for these truly flattering comments. I would just like to say that I really appreciate you letting me know that my musings actually resonate -- i write every week and until recently it felt like I was shouting into a void. But re: your thoughts on your son and how to raise him, that really moved me. I think male tenderness is so hugely, hugely discounted in society right now. The dominant narrative is how dangerous men are. I mean, they definitely can be. But the vast majority are not. The other thing that we forget is that if something is bad for women, it will eventually be bad for men. And what's bad for men will eventually be bad for women. We are linked in ways so profound we cease to even see them anymore. Getting the male-female dynamic right is something humans have always struggled with, yet it is possibly the most important thing. But I get the strong sense that your son will grow up with the right guidance. Thanks again. 🥰
Absolutely Jenny. I can't wait to read more and recommend you to others. I'm digesting everything you're writing and I hope you manage a book or speaking engagements. You are not shouting into a void. People like me are begging for your kind of perspective.
Hey dude I also love rcp and found this writer the same way. I always wondered if rcp truly presented as something like an accumulator of the best right & left headlines. Because I am a right winger and thought sometimes rcp may come off as right wing favoring. Any thoughts on that claim?
This is one of the best articles I've read on the subject, you are spot-on!
Wow thank you!! I really appreciate that.
Thanks for the thoughtful essay. As a not-particularly-handsome, shy teenage boy I was certain I'd never have a relationship with a girl or woman. Fortunately for me, it turned out I was mistaken. I had a few long-term girlfriends, and I've been married for decades now. But what about guys who are even less attractive than I thought I was? What are the "pathetic and unfuckable" supposed to do? Just accept their fate and do without their entire lives? Wow, that would be a hard row to hoe. Guys like that have been tragically cheated by fate, or genetics, or whatever. I can't imagine a life without a meaningful intimate relationship with a woman. I don't know what the solution is for them.
Thanks for this comment, it is very interesting and it really gets to the heart of the matter. I think we need to really train kids to have patience and competence -- in life generally. These emotional and practical skills will give them the inner tools they need for a fulfilling life. And we need to shield them in those extremely vulnerable teen years, when everyone is a hormonal basket case, from false idols that promise perfection or self-realisation through surgery or sexual activity or attention seeking behaviours. Imagine if when you were a boy you were shown videos that aimed to convince you it was easier to BECOME a woman than to grow into a man who could on his own merits win a woman over? We need to teach young men to be skilled (at something, anything), to contribute, to respect women -- and no matter what they look like physically they will never be "pathetic and unfuckable."
Yes, patience and competence in life are essential. It seems to me the problem incel types have connecting with women has more to do with emotional immaturity, a failure to develop competence and confidence in life generally, than it does with physical attractiveness. I'm glad the forces preying on vulnerable teen minds today, even in the form of their teachers and school psychologists, weren't around when I was that age. I think you're right--any young man who is competent at life and respects women will not end up a pathetic incel.
I sympathize with anyone who is coerced into being sexually abused, or who is involuntarily part of the "sex industry". But there are prostitutes who are in that profession voluntarily, hawking their wares on the sidewalk and on the internet. I can't begrudge men who are too unattractive to have a normal relationship being able to experience sex on some level with women who have chosen of their own free will to take money in exchange for it.
The uses of sexual repression are brilliantly exposed by Wilhelm Reich in three (poorly) translated from the German, books: The Mass Psychology of Fascism, The Sexual Revolution and The Invasion of Compulsory Sexual Morality. In a nutshell, it produces a populace that will be compliant, obedient and willing to act against its own best interests.
Turns out that the deliberate over-sexualisation of young people produces as compliant and incapacitated a society as sexual repression does.
Reich was referring to things like the severe punishments for masturbation prescribed for children who indulged in it. I'm sure you can think of other ways normal healthy sexual interest/practice on the part, particularly of teenagers, is inhibited by society.
Sin has, of course, been around for a very long time, but today many have bought the lie that sin should be celebrated. This hurts everybody in a society, particularly the most vulnerable. Although some (including some in religious establishments) have confused sinning with a failure to adhere to man-made petty legalisms, that does not mean that real sin does not exist. But God allows U-turns.
As someone who has been secular my whole life, I 100 percent agree with you.
If I were the sort of person who could get away with saying “damn girl!” I’d be saying it. We should all be getting this real about what is going on. Well done.
There’s a documentary coming out about what happened at the Playboy Mansion. It’s a good example of what the public and private sphere line was…. To the public these were “sophisticated” men who enjoyed beautiful women, privately they did lots of drugs, drugged women for sex, participated in orgies and occasionally made drugged out porn stars give head to german shepards…. My guess is most of them were psychopaths, who literally can’t engage in healthy sexuality. Ira Einhorn is a good example, plus he had a diary so anyone can get a view into the psychopathic mind. Be warned, it’s significantly darker than a Cardi B video.
The topic of the Whose Body Is It youtube channel, which I reference twice in the piece, is all significantly darker than Cardi B. It's mind boggling how damaged we have become with these extreme behaviours. The normalisation has to stop. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thank you for posting those links -- i will have a look.
Thank you for writing this and engaging on this incredibly difficult topic. I'm not even sure what to say in return, other than a) I appreciate it, a lot and b) you absolutely hit the nail on the head, especially re: disassociation. It was when I started seeing people talk about how kids are being trained in weird online communities to disassociate in order to then perform sex acts that I realised how dark this shit is -- that was such a profound shock. I think people like you who have lived the sharp end of the stick need to have much bigger platforms to counter these dangerously naive narratives that sheltered middle class girls are buying into. I would actually be interested in talking with you about this further, if you were willing.
Would you mind if I sent you an email?