Where is the line to be drawn between a gentle approach that might bring some liberal centrists over the line, and being an appeaser to an ideology that seeks to sterilise children?
The notion that people too young to legally buy a beer should be allowed to make radical elective medical decisions that will alter the future of their lives is nutty (not cute nutty, dangerously nutty). Any adult influence in pushing this is beyond concerning. By the way, I appreciate the fact that you read the column in addition to providing the text. That adds another dimension to your excellent work.
Thank you Jenny for this. Exactly how I feel except I don’t really have any sympathy for those liberals who leave the door cracked open. Thank you for calling them perverts bc that’s what they are. Autogynephelia is a sexual fetish, not something that should be practiced outside of their bedrooms. The extreme LGBTQ stances must go. L & G should have rejected T & Q from the beginning. It is a short hop from normalizing sexual fetishes to normalizing pedophelia as simply a sexual orientation. They call it MAP, minor attracted people. Why do you think there’s so much child trafficking these days? Pedophelia is why.
Correct. The short-term goal of the "trans" lie is legalization of pedophilia. That's obvious.
And there is no such thing as "trans" in general. A man who "feels like" he's a woman is mentally ill. Adults cannot do whatever they want their bodies. Nobody can get lobotomies or healthy limb removal. If doctors can say no to that, they can say no to this.
I live in the US, where so far this type of mental illness has not been "affirmed." Canada is such a stupid place with taxpayer-funded healthcare that I'm not surprised by this.
But if trannies are going to be affirmed, then this is inevitable, for everything. People like Rachel Dolezal have to be considered black even if they're white, people who want legs or fingers or anything else to be amputated should get amputations, people who have schizophrenia and want everyone to accept what the voices in their heads are telling them--it all has to be accepted.
How far is this going to go? Are they going to bring back lobotomies if somebody asks for that?
That is why "trans" has to be shut down now. Lawsuits are starting. If it stops in the US, it will stop globally because the ideas and the money come from the US, mostly Jewish billionaires. If it stops here, it will stop everywhere.
Shaming and stigmatising are legitimate ways we keep society safe. I realise that they can be used unfairly and cruelly, too, and we should remain vigilant to that, but we should also remain very discerning about what we get ‘liberal’ about.
Yes!! It's truly bizarre how women -- liberal women at least -- have been persuaded to turn off their internal warning systems that for millennia have kept us alert to predators. This is something Amy Souza and Isabella Malbin talk about, but until I heard them talk about it I thought the world had gone mad and no one other than me had noticed it.
Men who get the stupid idea in their heads that they're actually women should be shamed, ridiculed, and stigmatized. They need to hear it because they're unable to feel shame at their idiotic behavior, and the medical industry shouldn't go along with any of it.
I think a distinction needs to be made between the middle aged men a la Debbie Hayton who are living out their AGP fantasies and the young men and boys who were essentially depressed or lonely, and got brainwashed by creeps in schools and online, esp porn, and then pushed to transition by evil bastard doctors and social worker types. Have you seen The Lost Boys? It broke my heart.
There may be differences in what motivates these males, just like there may be differences in what motivates an eating disorder, or schizophrenia, or apotemnophilia. But it's still all mental illness.
It’s not just about medicalisation though, is it? With a GRC men (and it is mainly men) can enter women only spaces and compete in women’s sports. The issue is broader.
There's no such thing as "trans." When a man says he feels like he's a woman, the answer must be no, to all of it. Trying to build laws on lies and delusion will always fail. It simply cannot be done.
Tbh, I - and most others - used to just leave them alone to live their lives if they weren’t hurting anyone. We didn’t welcome them into our own lives, or anything, so they were indirectly shunned in a way. Otherwise, they were left alone, apart from the odd group of (usually) boys or young men who would decide to have a go at the tranny. Now, it’s very different, with public displays of their fetishes and perversions being labelled as being ‘trans’. I have no problem stigmatising and shaming them.
By definition, the "trans" agenda cannot leave people alone. There really is no such thing with this. It only exists because it forces others to tell lies, which results in lawsuits against employers, schools, gyms, etc.
It exists because the ultimate goal is to target children, as it is doing right now.
If you're talking about some perverts just staying in their houses, fine. But once money gets involved in this agenda, through the medical industry, it will never leave people alone. The moment a man thinks he's a woman, it will involve others because it is a lie and telling a lie in society requires that others tell it to.
"perverts need to get back in their box and stay there." is well said. There are two sorts of villainy responsible for the mad 'trans' fad that swept the Anglosphere in the past few years. 1) the transgender politico-obsessives who emerged from their academia petri-dishes and 'long marched' this mass-psychosis through all our stupid civic institutions desperate to not be left behind in embracing the latest bit of woke faddery. This gets talked about a lot in the anti-woke media (including this excellent article) so I've nothing more to add. 2) something that never gets talked about: in our mass media/social media eco-system, the crazier something is, the more attention it will get. So a big part of the reason why this fad (affecting ten years back around 0.0001% of the population) got so much traction was because it was such click-bait for the anti-woke media who, in other words, ended up being its useful idiots. There ought to be a lesson here.
Algorithms on social media don’t work like that and the infrastructure of the internet hasn’t really been like that since the early 2000s. It’s not primarily about attention, it’s about creating identity matrixes that fit upon “consumer maps” into usable demographics. It’s a good point because you’re right in a way but the automation is instead on the “tail-end”.
Algorithms somehow created a particular type of trans person and ridicule came afterwards not before. Take maladjusted weirdos and nonthinking algorithms, and poof. 2012-2013 was pivotal, and the amount of information on every person blew up in service for a lot for different interests (commercial, private, public and political). Look at the drastic change in news using the word “racism” immediately after the first wave of the mass adoption of smart phones. Partly engagement bait, partly information collection. It’s a very easy way to train predictive-generative models.
Interesting response to my comment. But I wasn't talking about the algorithm effect (although, you're right that that is a factor too). My comment was about the human journalist factor....the useful idiot factor.
Adults cannot do whatever they want with their bodies.
Nobody can demand that doctors perform lobotomies on them. Anorexics who are starving themselves to death and weigh 70 pounds cannot demand liposuction. Apotemnophiliacs cannot demand doctors to remove healthy limbs.
When a man demands that doctors mutilate his body because he "feels like" he's a woman and all of society must conform to his delusions, it simply is not feasible. It cannot be done without massive harm to children and women, and there will be huge demands on laws, institutions, schools, etc.
The answer must be no. To all of it. There's no such thing as "trans." This is just untreated mental illness.
Thank you! Please keep educating about this. The people who practice this ideology are in a sad, decadent DEATH CULT. Against all that is good normal approach to an abundant life and happiness. I won’t give up my happiness or my children’s happiness for their nihilistic narcissism and self-indulgent mania and sociopathy.
To whom you are attracted sexually is purely subjective and therefore cannot reasonably be contested by an outside observer. Where you decide to live your life on a spectrum of superficial, stereotypical male to female attributes (and we all do) is also purely subjective and similarly cannot be questioned. However, your biological sex reflects an objective reality which cannot be changed by your subjective personal view and futile attempts to do so can result in serious health impacts to you as well as actual harms to members of the sex you are impersonating (especially women). Finally, others who are grounded in objective reality should never be forced to accept your subjective version of your actual biological sex.
I would like to suggest that phrases like "sex-changing medical procedures" are implicitly validating the false claims of the transification movement.
Sex, as you know, cannot be changed.
Similarly, sex was not "assigned" and cannot be "reassigned".
I suggest alternative phrases such as "sex-trait modification drugs and surgeries" or "opposite-sex imitation drugs and surgeries", which do not implicitly validate the false notion that sex can be "changed" or "reassigned", and also flesh out (so to speak!) the overly anodyne "procedures".
I just call it extreme body modification because that's what it is. If you want to get more specific there is penile inversion, breast amputation, etc. We're at the point we are trying to come up with different euphemisms for the euphemisms they came up with. No, these things already had a name, ones they didn't want to use because they're less appealing to sell the lie with.
I don't want to quibble about terms as when writing I try to balance clarity and brevity - but just to point out 'sex-change' works in that sex can refer to genitals as well as sex class. These surgeries definitely change the genitals, by mutilating them.
Pervs are addicts to their perversions. They aren’t going to stop. Sexual mutilation of children is akin to pedophilia. Harvard Med, decades ago, published that pedos cannot - CAN NOT - be cured. Any system of Justice that cared about the future would immediately arrest & execute any adult pushing any kind of sex-based attack on children.
LOVE your succinct summation that perverts need to get back in the box and stay there. YES! Thank you for saying this bluntly and clearly. The public square has been taken over by crazy people and their unworkable causes and it’s destructive and demoralizing to everybody else. Compassion has its limits; it must work hand in hand with reason and justice or you get this waking nightmare of ours.
The notion that people too young to legally buy a beer should be allowed to make radical elective medical decisions that will alter the future of their lives is nutty (not cute nutty, dangerously nutty). Any adult influence in pushing this is beyond concerning. By the way, I appreciate the fact that you read the column in addition to providing the text. That adds another dimension to your excellent work.
Just heard that Iran is attacking Israel. "Pray for the peace of Jerusalem. May those who love you be secure." (Psalm 122:6)
I prayed for Israel last night.
Thank you Jenny for this. Exactly how I feel except I don’t really have any sympathy for those liberals who leave the door cracked open. Thank you for calling them perverts bc that’s what they are. Autogynephelia is a sexual fetish, not something that should be practiced outside of their bedrooms. The extreme LGBTQ stances must go. L & G should have rejected T & Q from the beginning. It is a short hop from normalizing sexual fetishes to normalizing pedophelia as simply a sexual orientation. They call it MAP, minor attracted people. Why do you think there’s so much child trafficking these days? Pedophelia is why.
Correct. The short-term goal of the "trans" lie is legalization of pedophilia. That's obvious.
And there is no such thing as "trans" in general. A man who "feels like" he's a woman is mentally ill. Adults cannot do whatever they want their bodies. Nobody can get lobotomies or healthy limb removal. If doctors can say no to that, they can say no to this.
I live in the US, where so far this type of mental illness has not been "affirmed." Canada is such a stupid place with taxpayer-funded healthcare that I'm not surprised by this.
But if trannies are going to be affirmed, then this is inevitable, for everything. People like Rachel Dolezal have to be considered black even if they're white, people who want legs or fingers or anything else to be amputated should get amputations, people who have schizophrenia and want everyone to accept what the voices in their heads are telling them--it all has to be accepted.
How far is this going to go? Are they going to bring back lobotomies if somebody asks for that?
That is why "trans" has to be shut down now. Lawsuits are starting. If it stops in the US, it will stop globally because the ideas and the money come from the US, mostly Jewish billionaires. If it stops here, it will stop everywhere.
Shaming and stigmatising are legitimate ways we keep society safe. I realise that they can be used unfairly and cruelly, too, and we should remain vigilant to that, but we should also remain very discerning about what we get ‘liberal’ about.
Yes!! It's truly bizarre how women -- liberal women at least -- have been persuaded to turn off their internal warning systems that for millennia have kept us alert to predators. This is something Amy Souza and Isabella Malbin talk about, but until I heard them talk about it I thought the world had gone mad and no one other than me had noticed it.
Men who get the stupid idea in their heads that they're actually women should be shamed, ridiculed, and stigmatized. They need to hear it because they're unable to feel shame at their idiotic behavior, and the medical industry shouldn't go along with any of it.
I think a distinction needs to be made between the middle aged men a la Debbie Hayton who are living out their AGP fantasies and the young men and boys who were essentially depressed or lonely, and got brainwashed by creeps in schools and online, esp porn, and then pushed to transition by evil bastard doctors and social worker types. Have you seen The Lost Boys? It broke my heart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaiicS2HXW4
Thank you, Jenny, for posting this link. Just finished watching it. I plan to share this with others.
There may be differences in what motivates these males, just like there may be differences in what motivates an eating disorder, or schizophrenia, or apotemnophilia. But it's still all mental illness.
It’s not just about medicalisation though, is it? With a GRC men (and it is mainly men) can enter women only spaces and compete in women’s sports. The issue is broader.
The issue is the whole thing.
There's no such thing as "trans." When a man says he feels like he's a woman, the answer must be no, to all of it. Trying to build laws on lies and delusion will always fail. It simply cannot be done.
so well put by you. thank you. bullshit is bullshit regardless of who says it.
Tbh, I - and most others - used to just leave them alone to live their lives if they weren’t hurting anyone. We didn’t welcome them into our own lives, or anything, so they were indirectly shunned in a way. Otherwise, they were left alone, apart from the odd group of (usually) boys or young men who would decide to have a go at the tranny. Now, it’s very different, with public displays of their fetishes and perversions being labelled as being ‘trans’. I have no problem stigmatising and shaming them.
By definition, the "trans" agenda cannot leave people alone. There really is no such thing with this. It only exists because it forces others to tell lies, which results in lawsuits against employers, schools, gyms, etc.
It exists because the ultimate goal is to target children, as it is doing right now.
If you're talking about some perverts just staying in their houses, fine. But once money gets involved in this agenda, through the medical industry, it will never leave people alone. The moment a man thinks he's a woman, it will involve others because it is a lie and telling a lie in society requires that others tell it to.
So, they will never leave people alone.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." Upton Sinclair
Indeed!
Every doctor who took away the healthy breast tissue needs to hand their medical license taken away as a minimum.
Those that prescribed puberty blockers, the same.
You have to take a hard line approach tho this.
Think of the gender shit like a cancer. You can’t take any soft measures. Cut it all out.
Jail would be more appropriate
"perverts need to get back in their box and stay there." is well said. There are two sorts of villainy responsible for the mad 'trans' fad that swept the Anglosphere in the past few years. 1) the transgender politico-obsessives who emerged from their academia petri-dishes and 'long marched' this mass-psychosis through all our stupid civic institutions desperate to not be left behind in embracing the latest bit of woke faddery. This gets talked about a lot in the anti-woke media (including this excellent article) so I've nothing more to add. 2) something that never gets talked about: in our mass media/social media eco-system, the crazier something is, the more attention it will get. So a big part of the reason why this fad (affecting ten years back around 0.0001% of the population) got so much traction was because it was such click-bait for the anti-woke media who, in other words, ended up being its useful idiots. There ought to be a lesson here.
Algorithms on social media don’t work like that and the infrastructure of the internet hasn’t really been like that since the early 2000s. It’s not primarily about attention, it’s about creating identity matrixes that fit upon “consumer maps” into usable demographics. It’s a good point because you’re right in a way but the automation is instead on the “tail-end”.
Algorithms somehow created a particular type of trans person and ridicule came afterwards not before. Take maladjusted weirdos and nonthinking algorithms, and poof. 2012-2013 was pivotal, and the amount of information on every person blew up in service for a lot for different interests (commercial, private, public and political). Look at the drastic change in news using the word “racism” immediately after the first wave of the mass adoption of smart phones. Partly engagement bait, partly information collection. It’s a very easy way to train predictive-generative models.
Interesting response to my comment. But I wasn't talking about the algorithm effect (although, you're right that that is a factor too). My comment was about the human journalist factor....the useful idiot factor.
Adults cannot do whatever they want with their bodies.
Nobody can demand that doctors perform lobotomies on them. Anorexics who are starving themselves to death and weigh 70 pounds cannot demand liposuction. Apotemnophiliacs cannot demand doctors to remove healthy limbs.
When a man demands that doctors mutilate his body because he "feels like" he's a woman and all of society must conform to his delusions, it simply is not feasible. It cannot be done without massive harm to children and women, and there will be huge demands on laws, institutions, schools, etc.
The answer must be no. To all of it. There's no such thing as "trans." This is just untreated mental illness.
Thank you! Please keep educating about this. The people who practice this ideology are in a sad, decadent DEATH CULT. Against all that is good normal approach to an abundant life and happiness. I won’t give up my happiness or my children’s happiness for their nihilistic narcissism and self-indulgent mania and sociopathy.
To whom you are attracted sexually is purely subjective and therefore cannot reasonably be contested by an outside observer. Where you decide to live your life on a spectrum of superficial, stereotypical male to female attributes (and we all do) is also purely subjective and similarly cannot be questioned. However, your biological sex reflects an objective reality which cannot be changed by your subjective personal view and futile attempts to do so can result in serious health impacts to you as well as actual harms to members of the sex you are impersonating (especially women). Finally, others who are grounded in objective reality should never be forced to accept your subjective version of your actual biological sex.
For some reason I'm blocked from liking this comment (?!) but consider it liked.
I would like to suggest that phrases like "sex-changing medical procedures" are implicitly validating the false claims of the transification movement.
Sex, as you know, cannot be changed.
Similarly, sex was not "assigned" and cannot be "reassigned".
I suggest alternative phrases such as "sex-trait modification drugs and surgeries" or "opposite-sex imitation drugs and surgeries", which do not implicitly validate the false notion that sex can be "changed" or "reassigned", and also flesh out (so to speak!) the overly anodyne "procedures".
I just call it extreme body modification because that's what it is. If you want to get more specific there is penile inversion, breast amputation, etc. We're at the point we are trying to come up with different euphemisms for the euphemisms they came up with. No, these things already had a name, ones they didn't want to use because they're less appealing to sell the lie with.
I don't want to quibble about terms as when writing I try to balance clarity and brevity - but just to point out 'sex-change' works in that sex can refer to genitals as well as sex class. These surgeries definitely change the genitals, by mutilating them.
Pervs are addicts to their perversions. They aren’t going to stop. Sexual mutilation of children is akin to pedophilia. Harvard Med, decades ago, published that pedos cannot - CAN NOT - be cured. Any system of Justice that cared about the future would immediately arrest & execute any adult pushing any kind of sex-based attack on children.
Pervs ARE addicts!!! Exactly.
However, I'm not at the point of calling for anyone's execution. I will never claim to have that level of wisdom to declare someone should die.
Exactly
Excellent! Thank you.
LOVE your succinct summation that perverts need to get back in the box and stay there. YES! Thank you for saying this bluntly and clearly. The public square has been taken over by crazy people and their unworkable causes and it’s destructive and demoralizing to everybody else. Compassion has its limits; it must work hand in hand with reason and justice or you get this waking nightmare of ours.
VERY well said. Thank you.
This is the line I struggle to draw and reconcile. Thanks for this very clear statement.
May I cite a Mr. Rogers quote
"if you were born a boy, . . You are a Boy
if you were born a Girl, . . You are a Girl" . . . simple, & how positively spot-on!