Online I’ve repeatedly banged away at the following, the building that Trump held his rally in isn’t the same one as where the German American Bund 1939 rally took place nor is it located in the same place. It simply has the same name. Exactly what having a rally at MSG - per se- is supposed to prove is beyond me. The Communists also held a rally there. I saw The Rolling Stones at the Garden and Neil Young. I’m fine with people not liking Trump but it would be nice if they’d actually stick to facts and not spiral out into fantasy.Trump might be - fill in the disparaging word- but this he’s a Nazi doesn’t even make sense.
"The Nazi trope. The women-bleeding-out-in-parking-lots trope. The rapist trope. The Putin’s lapdog trope. At this point, these have all been debunked to one degree or another." These were not really debunked, they just didn't realize they were looking in a mirror. I don't fully understand the why of the Trump effect, but his presence has caused the emperor's clothes to disintegrate, and we are now seeing a reshuffling as we observe what each person really believes. We are fortunate that it has come to this before the democrat Reichstag fire/Rwandan "cockroaches" propaganda continues on the path of destruction, as I believe enough people remember history. There are the ones who can't or won't remember, but their brownshirt leaders may smile when they lose, but the brownshirts will be plotting their next battle to dominate.
This is so, so, true. I don't understand how either, but he's so thoroughly destroyed the veneer of credibility that protected the elites not just in government, but in entertainment too. I tried to watch a George Clooney/Brad Pitt movie the other night, two actors I would have loved to watch in the Before Times, and it was unwatchable. Fake. Ham-fisted. Boring. Suddenly nothing seems natural, they are all trying so hard. The glow is totally gone. The fourth wall has been vaporised.
Yes Jenny! Sasha Stone talks about this a lot since she reported on Hollywood for many years. What kind of intellect do you have if you vote for who the celebrities tell you to?? Like Clooney, De Niro (vomit emoji), Springsteen, Julia Roberts, Swift, Oprah. Who cares what any of them think? I think bc Obama worshipped celebrities and they him that they think they matter, that they can direct traffic, but the tide has turned now.
"Actors shouldn’t campaign because they live in another world from ordinary people. If actors got an ounce of sense with every dollar they made, it would be all right."
--Walter Brennan
"I feel very strongly that actors haven't any business at all to shoot their faces off about things I know we know very little about."
--Gary Cooper
"Nothing multiplies the number of fools so much as the example of celebrities."
I've never been a big George Clooney fan (but dig Rosemary deeply). At this point in history, the sight of his smug, punchable face induces nausea. I don't think I could stand to watch one of his movies, ever again.
Those were all debunked, along with Russian collusion, "fine people on both sides", inciting an insurrection, "suckers and losers", etc., etc., up to the last-ditch desperate claim by Democrats that he's suffering from dementia. The latter is just another instance of what you pointed out--that they're looking in a mirror.
I feel your pain; with minor modifications, I could say the same thing.
This election is like seeing the world champ being rope-a-doped by his evil twin brother, because he partied too much the night before the fight.
My biggest concern is that I have come to realize how fragile our system is, because I now see how close we are to single party rule, where guardrails, checks, and balances can be eliminated, by a party that will do anything to make their dominance permanent.
I agree about Americans being great (hey, I married one!). I feel deeply despairing about American political culture right now. I can’t forgive Donald Trump for 6 January, but I can’t forgive the Democrats for the Biden cognitive decline cover-up, the trans issue, free speech, Israel (Kamala Harris said it would be a humanitarian disaster if the IDF went into Rafah. It wasn’t)… I’ve got no idea who I want to win. I’m sort of hoping for J.D. Vance for 2028, but aware that various members of my American family and friends will get angry if I express that aloud.
There’s a story I heard about Ronald Reagan, I can’t remember where. He was quarrelling with Congress over something and one of his aides suggested a constitutional, but somewhat unethical tactic (I forget what). Reagan said, “When I was in movies, when I made Westerns, I played the guy in the white hat and the guy in the white hat doesn’t do things like that.”
On one level, that’s a folksy Reagan story, but it speaks of a political culture where there were some things worth more than just winning: values, ethics, national solidarity, even just keeping the wheels of government spinning smoothly. I can’t see either Trump or Harris acting in this way. To them, winning is everything.
This corruption of political culture is, to me, far more troubling than any individual candidate. In 2032, neither Trump nor Harris will be on the ballot, but this annihilatory political culture probably still will be, unless something is done about it soon.
I agree with you overall. The only thing I will say about Jan6 is that beneath the mountain of spin and egregious political backstabbing, there was a genuine case that the Trump team was trying to make that there were many irregularities in the election and they were demanding a fair hearing. That is and should be allowed. Trump not being able to do express himself with nuance or subtlety did his case no favours, but there was so much Dem/Uniparty malfeasance at work behind the scenes, I'm sure that history will show them out to be the real villains of that story.
The Trump team has had almost four years to prove the election was stolen and have come up with zip. Yet he continues to lie in a deliberate attempt (successfully) to keep his base riled up over nothing. Very low-information voters, and extremely wrong and terrible and unforgiveable behavior by Trump.
Covid restrictions, alterations in voting, courts allowing illegal voting maneuvers, all were election interference. The masks and quarantines seems to have garnered a changed election and electorate, even as they did not prevent the spread of dosease. Would Trump have won without these interferences? I don’t know. And that’s the point.
Hunter Biden's laptop was "Russian disinformation" endorsed by 51 intelligence weasels. FBI knowing Hunter's laptop was truly his for over a year and lied. Crossfire Hurricane & Russiagate. Impeachments. All of this is election interference practiced by the Obama-Clinton machine and rallied around by all MSM. Now add in "election irregularities" in many states. The courts rejected even hearing these cases not bc they truly didn't have standing but bc.....politics.
Those lawsuits were rejected mostly on standing, but many judges also excoriated the Trump lawyers for bringing lawsuits with zero evidence. I read numerous articles in which the various accusations were thoroughly debunked so as Giuliani 's ridiculous claims. All this is available online for anyone who cares to read truth. As for Hunters laptop, I suppose you can hold that up against FBI s Comey deciding at the last minute to investigate
Clinton's email server. She still got 7 million more hotes V
Those are all small potatoes affecting everyone equally and finding ways to make it possible for people to vote safely was smart. Just like in NC and where election officials worked overtime to make it possible for those affected by Helene to vote. Good moves were made both times.
Democrat-controlled courts and leftist judges have prevented a proper investigation of 2020 election fraud. Even moderate-information voters know this.
It’s irrelevant who gets more votes since we are a constitutional republic and not a democracy. Remember civics?
Hilary is a criminal and should have gone to jail for the very obvious law-breaking with classified documents on a private server. Comey saved her by not prosecuting.
Even when Trump's team did a recount in Arizona, they found nothing. And winning 7 million more votes than Trump should indicate how many people despise him.
Watch video or read the transcript of Trump's entire speech on January 6, 2021. He did not incite violence. He told them to be peaceful. Prior to that day, he suggested extra security at the Capitol and it was turned down.
I just checked,again, and Trump said, We fight like hell, And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.' that is certainly inciting to a group like Trump supporters. Same article also debunks idea that Trump issued any order or formal request before or during the rioting in spite of his claims to have signed such an order. Trump remakes history to his liking and his followers believe him.
The Dems I know cannot have even a short conversation. Like victims of the body snatchers, they disengage by repeating the condescending phrase, “it would be good if we had the same facts.” Pushing through that threatens the friendship.
The team Trump has put together gives me hope. These are people with real world experiences. They do not all walk in lock step together. There is some true diversity of thought among them. Our bureaucratic overlords have become toxic octopuses with their slimy tentacles reaching into every aspect of our lives. If Trump’s team can hack away even a bit of this conglomeration of overreaching unelected bureaucrats then our lives will be enriched.
"Do these people have zero pattern recognition skills? Do they pick up on even the faintest whiff of hypocrisy, when the party that off-ed its own leader and swapped in someone who had barely ever received any votes, screams ‘end of democracy!’ because millions of people want to vote for someone else? "-- if my Facebook page is any indication then no, no they do not. I've said several times that the worst thing about a Trump win will be the flood of TDS that will follow. Art and entertainment will continue to be terrible. Unfortunately Trump's manner of speaking will only encourage this.
"And you have been under the most sustained and sophisticated economic, cultural, spiritual, and psychological warfare of our lifetime." Yes! It's been on simmer for decades but is now boiling over. Hopefully, the pot isn't dry when this all shakes out. Fingers crossed.
"Trump is a very flawed character. I still find his way of speaking to be shockingly unpresidential, sloppy, and imprecise."
This so resonates with me. I really think the ability of a person to take Trump seriously as a candidate for restoring America to its values and norms as opposed to fearing him as one who will demolish the democracy has everything to do with how literally one takes his words. The Left has no ability to hear him beyond the literal text of his speech. I wrote about it a few weeks ago because the JD Vance/Martha Raddatz encounter was the perfect illustration of the dynamic:
"Indeed, what’s striking is that when Vance calls her out for “nitpicking” Trump’s language, for showing obsessive concern about his words rather than the fact that any American apartment complexes are under control of Third World criminal gangs, she doesn’t back down. She doesn’t take even a moment to acknowledge the terrifying plight of those residents or their threatened or actual victimization. She expresses no recognition of them at all, and no sympathy. Her sole focus is on how inaccurately Donald Trump portrayed the situation and on correcting the record. As if that is the singular newsworthy angle on the story—the socially, culturally, morally compelling issue at hand.
Amen to this Jenny. Was just saying the same thing. I think no one is preparing to be reasonable at the outcome of this race and to say that worries me would be the biggest understatement of the year. The insanity, the hyperbole, the rattling of cans- is shocking. How can we move forward like this? How can we talk people down from the ledge?
Online I’ve repeatedly banged away at the following, the building that Trump held his rally in isn’t the same one as where the German American Bund 1939 rally took place nor is it located in the same place. It simply has the same name. Exactly what having a rally at MSG - per se- is supposed to prove is beyond me. The Communists also held a rally there. I saw The Rolling Stones at the Garden and Neil Young. I’m fine with people not liking Trump but it would be nice if they’d actually stick to facts and not spiral out into fantasy.Trump might be - fill in the disparaging word- but this he’s a Nazi doesn’t even make sense.
The Nazi with the Jewish grandchildren!
Well right but you notice when it comes to Trump things like that don’t matter because-/// well they don’t!
The very same building also housed rally by Clinton.
Didn’t know that. Would it have made sense to compare that to some Communist rally in the 1930s ? Of course not! But with Trump anything goes.
Actually, that comparison would have made a lot more sense than comparing Trump to Nazis.
This takedown by Glenn Greenwald of the MSG "Nazi" rally narrative is so droll and amusing. Highly recommend: https://youtu.be/8EjkstotxpE?si=JZnMViMZnSXDFjcM
You had me at the title!
Whoever wins, let us hope that we all have an uncommon case of common sense and re-unite as Americans.
Let us hope indeed!
Many thanks for today’s spot on essay and much love right back to you Jenny.
💚❤️💜
"The Nazi trope. The women-bleeding-out-in-parking-lots trope. The rapist trope. The Putin’s lapdog trope. At this point, these have all been debunked to one degree or another." These were not really debunked, they just didn't realize they were looking in a mirror. I don't fully understand the why of the Trump effect, but his presence has caused the emperor's clothes to disintegrate, and we are now seeing a reshuffling as we observe what each person really believes. We are fortunate that it has come to this before the democrat Reichstag fire/Rwandan "cockroaches" propaganda continues on the path of destruction, as I believe enough people remember history. There are the ones who can't or won't remember, but their brownshirt leaders may smile when they lose, but the brownshirts will be plotting their next battle to dominate.
This is so, so, true. I don't understand how either, but he's so thoroughly destroyed the veneer of credibility that protected the elites not just in government, but in entertainment too. I tried to watch a George Clooney/Brad Pitt movie the other night, two actors I would have loved to watch in the Before Times, and it was unwatchable. Fake. Ham-fisted. Boring. Suddenly nothing seems natural, they are all trying so hard. The glow is totally gone. The fourth wall has been vaporised.
Yes Jenny! Sasha Stone talks about this a lot since she reported on Hollywood for many years. What kind of intellect do you have if you vote for who the celebrities tell you to?? Like Clooney, De Niro (vomit emoji), Springsteen, Julia Roberts, Swift, Oprah. Who cares what any of them think? I think bc Obama worshipped celebrities and they him that they think they matter, that they can direct traffic, but the tide has turned now.
"Actors shouldn’t campaign because they live in another world from ordinary people. If actors got an ounce of sense with every dollar they made, it would be all right."
--Walter Brennan
"I feel very strongly that actors haven't any business at all to shoot their faces off about things I know we know very little about."
--Gary Cooper
"Nothing multiplies the number of fools so much as the example of celebrities."
--Nicolas Gomez Davila
I've never been a big George Clooney fan (but dig Rosemary deeply). At this point in history, the sight of his smug, punchable face induces nausea. I don't think I could stand to watch one of his movies, ever again.
Clooney is the same type of smug that Obama is. Thus their bro-fest.
Those were all debunked, along with Russian collusion, "fine people on both sides", inciting an insurrection, "suckers and losers", etc., etc., up to the last-ditch desperate claim by Democrats that he's suffering from dementia. The latter is just another instance of what you pointed out--that they're looking in a mirror.
Wish I did not have to say, Amen! The descent to the beastial brings great sorrow? Big hug
Can’t add a word.
Thank you. Hugs back.
💜💚
I feel your pain; with minor modifications, I could say the same thing.
This election is like seeing the world champ being rope-a-doped by his evil twin brother, because he partied too much the night before the fight.
My biggest concern is that I have come to realize how fragile our system is, because I now see how close we are to single party rule, where guardrails, checks, and balances can be eliminated, by a party that will do anything to make their dominance permanent.
I agree about Americans being great (hey, I married one!). I feel deeply despairing about American political culture right now. I can’t forgive Donald Trump for 6 January, but I can’t forgive the Democrats for the Biden cognitive decline cover-up, the trans issue, free speech, Israel (Kamala Harris said it would be a humanitarian disaster if the IDF went into Rafah. It wasn’t)… I’ve got no idea who I want to win. I’m sort of hoping for J.D. Vance for 2028, but aware that various members of my American family and friends will get angry if I express that aloud.
There’s a story I heard about Ronald Reagan, I can’t remember where. He was quarrelling with Congress over something and one of his aides suggested a constitutional, but somewhat unethical tactic (I forget what). Reagan said, “When I was in movies, when I made Westerns, I played the guy in the white hat and the guy in the white hat doesn’t do things like that.”
On one level, that’s a folksy Reagan story, but it speaks of a political culture where there were some things worth more than just winning: values, ethics, national solidarity, even just keeping the wheels of government spinning smoothly. I can’t see either Trump or Harris acting in this way. To them, winning is everything.
This corruption of political culture is, to me, far more troubling than any individual candidate. In 2032, neither Trump nor Harris will be on the ballot, but this annihilatory political culture probably still will be, unless something is done about it soon.
I agree with you overall. The only thing I will say about Jan6 is that beneath the mountain of spin and egregious political backstabbing, there was a genuine case that the Trump team was trying to make that there were many irregularities in the election and they were demanding a fair hearing. That is and should be allowed. Trump not being able to do express himself with nuance or subtlety did his case no favours, but there was so much Dem/Uniparty malfeasance at work behind the scenes, I'm sure that history will show them out to be the real villains of that story.
The Trump team has had almost four years to prove the election was stolen and have come up with zip. Yet he continues to lie in a deliberate attempt (successfully) to keep his base riled up over nothing. Very low-information voters, and extremely wrong and terrible and unforgiveable behavior by Trump.
Covid restrictions, alterations in voting, courts allowing illegal voting maneuvers, all were election interference. The masks and quarantines seems to have garnered a changed election and electorate, even as they did not prevent the spread of dosease. Would Trump have won without these interferences? I don’t know. And that’s the point.
Hunter Biden's laptop was "Russian disinformation" endorsed by 51 intelligence weasels. FBI knowing Hunter's laptop was truly his for over a year and lied. Crossfire Hurricane & Russiagate. Impeachments. All of this is election interference practiced by the Obama-Clinton machine and rallied around by all MSM. Now add in "election irregularities" in many states. The courts rejected even hearing these cases not bc they truly didn't have standing but bc.....politics.
Those lawsuits were rejected mostly on standing, but many judges also excoriated the Trump lawyers for bringing lawsuits with zero evidence. I read numerous articles in which the various accusations were thoroughly debunked so as Giuliani 's ridiculous claims. All this is available online for anyone who cares to read truth. As for Hunters laptop, I suppose you can hold that up against FBI s Comey deciding at the last minute to investigate
Clinton's email server. She still got 7 million more hotes V
Those are all small potatoes affecting everyone equally and finding ways to make it possible for people to vote safely was smart. Just like in NC and where election officials worked overtime to make it possible for those affected by Helene to vote. Good moves were made both times.
Democrat-controlled courts and leftist judges have prevented a proper investigation of 2020 election fraud. Even moderate-information voters know this.
There have been numerous investigations all finding squat. You can't force what is not there
Not investigations by *neutral parties.*
It’s irrelevant who gets more votes since we are a constitutional republic and not a democracy. Remember civics?
Hilary is a criminal and should have gone to jail for the very obvious law-breaking with classified documents on a private server. Comey saved her by not prosecuting.
Even when Trump's team did a recount in Arizona, they found nothing. And winning 7 million more votes than Trump should indicate how many people despise him.
Watch video or read the transcript of Trump's entire speech on January 6, 2021. He did not incite violence. He told them to be peaceful. Prior to that day, he suggested extra security at the Capitol and it was turned down.
I just checked,again, and Trump said, We fight like hell, And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.' that is certainly inciting to a group like Trump supporters. Same article also debunks idea that Trump issued any order or formal request before or during the rioting in spite of his claims to have signed such an order. Trump remakes history to his liking and his followers believe him.
In the whole runup he was very inciting and he said It will be wild, and Fight like hell. He knew what he was doing.
The Dems I know cannot have even a short conversation. Like victims of the body snatchers, they disengage by repeating the condescending phrase, “it would be good if we had the same facts.” Pushing through that threatens the friendship.
I think we might be being polite as it is hard to hold a conversation with someone who has no reference in truth.
The team Trump has put together gives me hope. These are people with real world experiences. They do not all walk in lock step together. There is some true diversity of thought among them. Our bureaucratic overlords have become toxic octopuses with their slimy tentacles reaching into every aspect of our lives. If Trump’s team can hack away even a bit of this conglomeration of overreaching unelected bureaucrats then our lives will be enriched.
"Do these people have zero pattern recognition skills? Do they pick up on even the faintest whiff of hypocrisy, when the party that off-ed its own leader and swapped in someone who had barely ever received any votes, screams ‘end of democracy!’ because millions of people want to vote for someone else? "-- if my Facebook page is any indication then no, no they do not. I've said several times that the worst thing about a Trump win will be the flood of TDS that will follow. Art and entertainment will continue to be terrible. Unfortunately Trump's manner of speaking will only encourage this.
"And you have been under the most sustained and sophisticated economic, cultural, spiritual, and psychological warfare of our lifetime." Yes! It's been on simmer for decades but is now boiling over. Hopefully, the pot isn't dry when this all shakes out. Fingers crossed.
I would say all of history because of social media and digital communications
Thank you, Jenny. Thank you for your big heart and your clear voice.
"Trump is a very flawed character. I still find his way of speaking to be shockingly unpresidential, sloppy, and imprecise."
This so resonates with me. I really think the ability of a person to take Trump seriously as a candidate for restoring America to its values and norms as opposed to fearing him as one who will demolish the democracy has everything to do with how literally one takes his words. The Left has no ability to hear him beyond the literal text of his speech. I wrote about it a few weeks ago because the JD Vance/Martha Raddatz encounter was the perfect illustration of the dynamic:
"Indeed, what’s striking is that when Vance calls her out for “nitpicking” Trump’s language, for showing obsessive concern about his words rather than the fact that any American apartment complexes are under control of Third World criminal gangs, she doesn’t back down. She doesn’t take even a moment to acknowledge the terrifying plight of those residents or their threatened or actual victimization. She expresses no recognition of them at all, and no sympathy. Her sole focus is on how inaccurately Donald Trump portrayed the situation and on correcting the record. As if that is the singular newsworthy angle on the story—the socially, culturally, morally compelling issue at hand.
"And that’s why I think Donald Trump will win."
https://open.substack.com/pub/leahrose/p/the-problem-of-only-a-handful?
Amen to this Jenny. Was just saying the same thing. I think no one is preparing to be reasonable at the outcome of this race and to say that worries me would be the biggest understatement of the year. The insanity, the hyperbole, the rattling of cans- is shocking. How can we move forward like this? How can we talk people down from the ledge?
Completely fabulous post as it maps my reality both intellectually and emotionally, perfectly.
I am replying to my post cuz I should have indicated I was commenting on Jenny’s post.