I share your fears but the woke revolution is not the Bolsheviks or Nazis or Islamic Revoluyionairies of Iran or the cultural revolutionairues of Mao’s China. Yes, the woke probably have around the 30% of true believers which is necessary for modern authoritarianism. But honestly, they don’t have much of the go along to get along crowd, and the dissent is WAY more than 5% and not going anywhere.
This “progressive revolution” in the last 5 years has attempted to other as extremists - white males, conservatives, anyone pro-life, anyone who believes sex based spaces should be based on biological sex, those that opposed lockdowns, parents who opposed extended school closures, anyone who supports voter ID laws, traditional families, anyone who opposed the violent BLM riots, everyone who owns a gun, school children who didn’t want to wear a face diaper, parents who oppose the sexualization of 5 year olds, anyone who rejected participating in an experimental medical treatments aka “anti-vaxxers”, anyone who voted for Trump, and basically all Republicans. I’m sure I’m forgetting a few “extremists” that are a “threat to our Democracy.” 😂. They missed the memo othering to bring about authoritarianism must be a clearly defined minority group that is a small percentage of the population. The woke have tried to other basically everyone 😂
This revolution of woke lunacy is going nowhere so long as people keep speaking out. It’s not principled and has no coherent vision or ideology. It’s causing lots of unnecessary harm, economic destruction, community destruction, and destruction of children. The bad stuff is real and it’s cruel.
Holding the line and speaking out is key. So is enjoying life, simply not doing what the woke demand, and staying close to friends and family. It’s most likely this fails miserably and the true believers in this attempted woke revolution will wear themselves out, self destruct, and start fading away in a few years.
I was right there with you and a 2-time Obama voter (oops). My questions started around 2013 too, but really picked up in 2014-2015 when this crap about first Hunter came out to ensure Biden didn’t threaten Hillary in the primary. For what it’s worth, when I saw the pictures from the speech last night I happened to be drinking water and literally spit it out laughing. I thought it was a meme. The actual memes today are really funny. 💓💓💓
The memes are very funny as are the Tweets -- I considered adding screengrabs for comic relief. I vacillate between seeing it as you do -- "they" utterly incompetent and already discredited -- and then fearing that whatever "they" are aiming for has already happened and we just have not been sent the press release informing us. We'll see! I keep telling myself, all hinges on the mid-terms. If they happen, then I will be reassured we are dealing with incompetent, venal and corrupt fools. If not...
I also agree that the woke revolutionaries are not the same as Nazis, etc. They are their own thing. But I do think they are the foot soldiers of much cannier, and more sophisticated players...which is why it worries me.
I agree and I’m worried too, but they keep making such fools of themselves it almost makes me feel better. The fact they are evidently puppets playing their roles in media and the administration is concerning. If the woke movement, or whoever is funding it, develops a coherent ideology that can be articulated I’ll become terrified, unless that happens I think this passes.
Jenny and NCmom, Hey, I'll push back a wee bit on that and take the flak.
The woke are exactly like the Nazis. They are behind the push in schools and "medicine" for child transgenderism (which is leaving permanently chemically and surgically mutilated children and young adults in its wake); and they're behind the huge promotion of euthanasia (Europe and Canada) for any age.
I was a front-line activist for abortion rights, but I can see that the issue has been hijacked by the woke, who see it as a eugenics device (not what we Second-Wave feminists ever intended). That's all eugenics, as is the "safe and effective covid vaccination", which is killing in the millions now.
The woke are behind masking, which is a ritual cult-symbol of group compliance (no credible, evidence-based research ever showed its effectiveness at reducing any illness, ever). Segregating and demanding to see cards? Says straight-up Nazi.
That Globalist-Biden show is chilling and bizarre and desperate (which is sort of heartening, because they must realize on some level that they're losing).
Cheers to you both! All genuinely in spirit of discussion.
I see your point. I don’t really disagree except I think the woke are far more incompetent and unprincipled. The Nazi’s and the regular people pulled into the evil had a horrible ideology, but they could articulate the ideology clearly. There was a goal and a clearly identified minority othered. The woke try to other some vast segment of the population every few months, they can’t articulate their ideology, and their world view/ enemy shifts every couple of months. You can define a Jew. The woke can’t define “right winger,” much less “woman.”
That Biden backdrop (and the screengrab of him looking as unhinged as any tyrant ever looked) is....WTF....you need to blink a few times to believe it is what it is. A 'no words' thing.
"I was one of those dummies who thought that Obama being president meant the culture wars were over. "
They WERE over -- in the sense that one side won and thereafter has enjoyed cultural & sociopolitical hegemony, not only in America, but throughout the entire Goddamned West. And it's more complicated than pinpointing a year or two as the "victory point", since the hegemony has been a layered process going back likely several decades, mixing conspiracy and organic disorder & decomposition. The 20th century, if I may paraphrase T.S.,
Your description of Biden as a "senile, corrupt, perverted puppet" gets to the heart of things. I was appalled and shaken, yet somehow not surprised, by the speech. In these ever more perilous times, we would do well to remember the words of Jesus Christ to his followers, "Let not your hearts be troubled." (John 14)
[Dying to read it! Paywalled (I stopped NYT about 10 years ago). You wouldn't paste the speech, would/could you? Hugely appreciated if possible! Otherwise I'll search for it someplace tonight, I hope.]
Interesting times we live in, at least people who are paying attention can see it. Sam Harris basically gave up any pretense of morality with his babies in the basement stupidity. Jon Stewart, the paragon of sanity is awarding Nazis achievement medals for their “heart” in Disneyworld and old Putin the “dictator” is looking rather sane as the West devolves and shells nuclear plants. Studying psychopaths gives insight into the problem, Cleckley wrote some books on it and there’s one called Political Ponerology that’s worth a read. Also, insight into the new future that possibly awaits people can be found in Douglas Valentines work on the Phoenix project and how the same people fashioned the security apparatus after 9/11. Ain’t easy reading though!
Hi Benjamin! Nice to see your name pop up again! That Sam Harris thing was just spectacular. I mean, how much more could he have exposed his stupidity. I just got a book called The Vice of Kings, by Jasun Horsley -- I'm only a few pages in but it's incredible. Dark. But this is a dark period.
I'm currently reading Jonah Goldberg's "Suicide of the West" which came out in 2018. He apparently draws heavily on a book by Joseph Schumpeter, "Capitalism, Socialism and Democracy," that came out in 1942. I ordered a copy but haven't read it yet. Goldberg's discussion is both fascinating and depressing at the same time. Like watching a slow-motion train wreck where you know lots of people are going to die. He argues that the innovation which drives Capitalism contains the seeds of it's own destruction. A few passages illustrate:
"...capitalism is relentlessly and unsentimentally rational and efficient. The free market tends to wipe away tradition and ritual in the name of profit. This is a wonderful thing when the traditions and rituals it is corroding are based in bigotry and oppression. But ..the capitalist tide doesn't stop [there]... It carves a path through the social landscape heedless of the social value certain institutions and customs provide." It "creates a market opportunity for intellectuals, lawyers, writers, artists, bureaucrats and other professionals who work with ideas to undermine and ridicule the existing system. They do so for a host of reasons."
Then there is this line from Schumpeter: "Sooner or later in any society the progress of technology will grind to a halt because the forces that used to support innovation become vested interests." "...technological progress creates the very forces that eventually destroy it."
Seems a very accurate description of what we are now experiencing.
This sounds very interesting -- I will look it up. Something I have realised about myself is that I have a very strong innate connection to tradition and the past. I feel on an almost visceral level -- ie it's not an intellectual thing, it's a gut thing -- a great sense of comfort being around old places. This book sounds interesting because it shows how capitalism (which I'm broadly in favour of) can work with socialism to wipe out the past. I'm very interested in instances where capitalism and communism have worked together, as that seems to the be the scariest of all possible systems.
It looks like the wings of the Reichsadler in red behind him. Wherever she may be in some afterlife, Leni Riefenstahl is smiling about that whole set design.
Ran across this signature quote in an email today. Seems apropos:
"Now more than ever before, the people are responsible for the character of their Congress. If that body be ignorant, reckless and corrupt, it is because the people tolerate ignorance, recklessness and corruption. If it be intelligent, brave and pure, it is because the people demand these high qualities to represent them in the national legislature... If the next centennial does not find us a great nation... it will be because those who represent the enterprise, the culture, and the morality of the nation do not aid in controlling the political forces."
--James Garfield, the twentieth president of the United States, 1877
Finally, one voice explains the reality of those who are hyper aware, they don't and won't benefit from anyone's b.s. They aren't beneficiary's of fascism at any level and there are many diverse subsets of Facism who do and it's immediately known. Which inevitably means that is what people call you without fail. The irony alone smacks of hypocrisy, but the most arrogant of hypocrites seem to ally the fears that it's ok--they don't really matter. This usually does the trick. Come on people, "Snap Out of It".
You are being very foolish. It has already come very close to happening. And you will be amazed, terrified even at how quickly you will be turned into a monster just by the mere threat of a slap in the face; as I once read someone put it about what they witnessed in Nazi Germany. The Jews were not the only people "othered", all lesser peoples were, anyone who was not part of the solution was part of the problem, what was done with or to them depended only upon what was needed of them at the moment.
I share your fears but the woke revolution is not the Bolsheviks or Nazis or Islamic Revoluyionairies of Iran or the cultural revolutionairues of Mao’s China. Yes, the woke probably have around the 30% of true believers which is necessary for modern authoritarianism. But honestly, they don’t have much of the go along to get along crowd, and the dissent is WAY more than 5% and not going anywhere.
This “progressive revolution” in the last 5 years has attempted to other as extremists - white males, conservatives, anyone pro-life, anyone who believes sex based spaces should be based on biological sex, those that opposed lockdowns, parents who opposed extended school closures, anyone who supports voter ID laws, traditional families, anyone who opposed the violent BLM riots, everyone who owns a gun, school children who didn’t want to wear a face diaper, parents who oppose the sexualization of 5 year olds, anyone who rejected participating in an experimental medical treatments aka “anti-vaxxers”, anyone who voted for Trump, and basically all Republicans. I’m sure I’m forgetting a few “extremists” that are a “threat to our Democracy.” 😂. They missed the memo othering to bring about authoritarianism must be a clearly defined minority group that is a small percentage of the population. The woke have tried to other basically everyone 😂
This revolution of woke lunacy is going nowhere so long as people keep speaking out. It’s not principled and has no coherent vision or ideology. It’s causing lots of unnecessary harm, economic destruction, community destruction, and destruction of children. The bad stuff is real and it’s cruel.
Holding the line and speaking out is key. So is enjoying life, simply not doing what the woke demand, and staying close to friends and family. It’s most likely this fails miserably and the true believers in this attempted woke revolution will wear themselves out, self destruct, and start fading away in a few years.
I was right there with you and a 2-time Obama voter (oops). My questions started around 2013 too, but really picked up in 2014-2015 when this crap about first Hunter came out to ensure Biden didn’t threaten Hillary in the primary. For what it’s worth, when I saw the pictures from the speech last night I happened to be drinking water and literally spit it out laughing. I thought it was a meme. The actual memes today are really funny. 💓💓💓
Oh, here's one of the puppet masters: https://www.axios.com/2022/09/02/biden-john-podesta-clean-energy-spending
Yes it is.......... 🤦♀️
The memes are very funny as are the Tweets -- I considered adding screengrabs for comic relief. I vacillate between seeing it as you do -- "they" utterly incompetent and already discredited -- and then fearing that whatever "they" are aiming for has already happened and we just have not been sent the press release informing us. We'll see! I keep telling myself, all hinges on the mid-terms. If they happen, then I will be reassured we are dealing with incompetent, venal and corrupt fools. If not...
I also agree that the woke revolutionaries are not the same as Nazis, etc. They are their own thing. But I do think they are the foot soldiers of much cannier, and more sophisticated players...which is why it worries me.
I agree and I’m worried too, but they keep making such fools of themselves it almost makes me feel better. The fact they are evidently puppets playing their roles in media and the administration is concerning. If the woke movement, or whoever is funding it, develops a coherent ideology that can be articulated I’ll become terrified, unless that happens I think this passes.
I totally agree. It's confusing to think our dark, all-powerful overlords are also incompetent clowns, isn't it? 🤣
Jenny and NCmom, Hey, I'll push back a wee bit on that and take the flak.
The woke are exactly like the Nazis. They are behind the push in schools and "medicine" for child transgenderism (which is leaving permanently chemically and surgically mutilated children and young adults in its wake); and they're behind the huge promotion of euthanasia (Europe and Canada) for any age.
I was a front-line activist for abortion rights, but I can see that the issue has been hijacked by the woke, who see it as a eugenics device (not what we Second-Wave feminists ever intended). That's all eugenics, as is the "safe and effective covid vaccination", which is killing in the millions now.
The woke are behind masking, which is a ritual cult-symbol of group compliance (no credible, evidence-based research ever showed its effectiveness at reducing any illness, ever). Segregating and demanding to see cards? Says straight-up Nazi.
That Globalist-Biden show is chilling and bizarre and desperate (which is sort of heartening, because they must realize on some level that they're losing).
Cheers to you both! All genuinely in spirit of discussion.
I see your point. I don’t really disagree except I think the woke are far more incompetent and unprincipled. The Nazi’s and the regular people pulled into the evil had a horrible ideology, but they could articulate the ideology clearly. There was a goal and a clearly identified minority othered. The woke try to other some vast segment of the population every few months, they can’t articulate their ideology, and their world view/ enemy shifts every couple of months. You can define a Jew. The woke can’t define “right winger,” much less “woman.”
And I see your points as well!
Extraordinarily weird and awful times.
That Biden backdrop (and the screengrab of him looking as unhinged as any tyrant ever looked) is....WTF....you need to blink a few times to believe it is what it is. A 'no words' thing.
"I was one of those dummies who thought that Obama being president meant the culture wars were over. "
They WERE over -- in the sense that one side won and thereafter has enjoyed cultural & sociopolitical hegemony, not only in America, but throughout the entire Goddamned West. And it's more complicated than pinpointing a year or two as the "victory point", since the hegemony has been a layered process going back likely several decades, mixing conspiracy and organic disorder & decomposition. The 20th century, if I may paraphrase T.S.,
"was the cruelest century, breeding
lilacs out of the dead land, mixing
memory and desire, stirring
dull roots with spring rain.”
Beautiful words!
Your description of Biden as a "senile, corrupt, perverted puppet" gets to the heart of things. I was appalled and shaken, yet somehow not surprised, by the speech. In these ever more perilous times, we would do well to remember the words of Jesus Christ to his followers, "Let not your hearts be troubled." (John 14)
Yes, Susan. Good advice, most certainly. 💚🙏🏻
[Dying to read it! Paywalled (I stopped NYT about 10 years ago). You wouldn't paste the speech, would/could you? Hugely appreciated if possible! Otherwise I'll search for it someplace tonight, I hope.]
:-)
It's available on the WH site here -
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/09/01/remarks-by-president-bidenon-the-continued-battle-for-the-soul-of-the-nation/
It's total trash, btw. Just a series of meaningless, rhetorical phrasing.
TY!
Interesting times we live in, at least people who are paying attention can see it. Sam Harris basically gave up any pretense of morality with his babies in the basement stupidity. Jon Stewart, the paragon of sanity is awarding Nazis achievement medals for their “heart” in Disneyworld and old Putin the “dictator” is looking rather sane as the West devolves and shells nuclear plants. Studying psychopaths gives insight into the problem, Cleckley wrote some books on it and there’s one called Political Ponerology that’s worth a read. Also, insight into the new future that possibly awaits people can be found in Douglas Valentines work on the Phoenix project and how the same people fashioned the security apparatus after 9/11. Ain’t easy reading though!
Hi Benjamin! Nice to see your name pop up again! That Sam Harris thing was just spectacular. I mean, how much more could he have exposed his stupidity. I just got a book called The Vice of Kings, by Jasun Horsley -- I'm only a few pages in but it's incredible. Dark. But this is a dark period.
I'm currently reading Jonah Goldberg's "Suicide of the West" which came out in 2018. He apparently draws heavily on a book by Joseph Schumpeter, "Capitalism, Socialism and Democracy," that came out in 1942. I ordered a copy but haven't read it yet. Goldberg's discussion is both fascinating and depressing at the same time. Like watching a slow-motion train wreck where you know lots of people are going to die. He argues that the innovation which drives Capitalism contains the seeds of it's own destruction. A few passages illustrate:
"...capitalism is relentlessly and unsentimentally rational and efficient. The free market tends to wipe away tradition and ritual in the name of profit. This is a wonderful thing when the traditions and rituals it is corroding are based in bigotry and oppression. But ..the capitalist tide doesn't stop [there]... It carves a path through the social landscape heedless of the social value certain institutions and customs provide." It "creates a market opportunity for intellectuals, lawyers, writers, artists, bureaucrats and other professionals who work with ideas to undermine and ridicule the existing system. They do so for a host of reasons."
Then there is this line from Schumpeter: "Sooner or later in any society the progress of technology will grind to a halt because the forces that used to support innovation become vested interests." "...technological progress creates the very forces that eventually destroy it."
Seems a very accurate description of what we are now experiencing.
This sounds very interesting -- I will look it up. Something I have realised about myself is that I have a very strong innate connection to tradition and the past. I feel on an almost visceral level -- ie it's not an intellectual thing, it's a gut thing -- a great sense of comfort being around old places. This book sounds interesting because it shows how capitalism (which I'm broadly in favour of) can work with socialism to wipe out the past. I'm very interested in instances where capitalism and communism have worked together, as that seems to the be the scariest of all possible systems.
Excellent piece. X
Thank you Clare!
It looks like the wings of the Reichsadler in red behind him. Wherever she may be in some afterlife, Leni Riefenstahl is smiling about that whole set design.
I know right!??? WTF?????
https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-announces-invasion-of-poland/
Ran across this signature quote in an email today. Seems apropos:
"Now more than ever before, the people are responsible for the character of their Congress. If that body be ignorant, reckless and corrupt, it is because the people tolerate ignorance, recklessness and corruption. If it be intelligent, brave and pure, it is because the people demand these high qualities to represent them in the national legislature... If the next centennial does not find us a great nation... it will be because those who represent the enterprise, the culture, and the morality of the nation do not aid in controlling the political forces."
--James Garfield, the twentieth president of the United States, 1877
Finally, one voice explains the reality of those who are hyper aware, they don't and won't benefit from anyone's b.s. They aren't beneficiary's of fascism at any level and there are many diverse subsets of Facism who do and it's immediately known. Which inevitably means that is what people call you without fail. The irony alone smacks of hypocrisy, but the most arrogant of hypocrites seem to ally the fears that it's ok--they don't really matter. This usually does the trick. Come on people, "Snap Out of It".
You are being very foolish. It has already come very close to happening. And you will be amazed, terrified even at how quickly you will be turned into a monster just by the mere threat of a slap in the face; as I once read someone put it about what they witnessed in Nazi Germany. The Jews were not the only people "othered", all lesser peoples were, anyone who was not part of the solution was part of the problem, what was done with or to them depended only upon what was needed of them at the moment.
I'm confused by this comment.
Your first sentence seems odd, although I agree with the rest of what you said.
If you don’t like the idea of a family of grifters in the White House, you better vote Trump next time… You guys crack me up… The irony is too much…🤣
Not being snarky, I genuinely do not understand this comment. Who are "you guys" and why do we? crack you up?